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At first I thought of it as Open(Web|Source|File Format|StreetMap|etc), now I group it with OpenTable.

Also at first this objection really resonated with me. I think the meaning of OpenAI has spread pretty well now, and that it's getting to the point where raising this objection is tiresome.

There is an important point to be made about how it got popularized as being open and then they went and closed it while keeping the momentum, but that should be made instead of just saying, "wait, it's called OpenAI but isn't open?!?!"

However, stuff gets started as an open play all the time and gets closed, without open in the brand name, for instance https://ghuntley.com/fracture/ - hence the term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openwashing

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This is the first time they have not posted any sort of a paper when releasing a new model. Even the sort that accompanied GPT-4 announcement.

Qualifier intended. It's getting to the point where raising this objection is tiresome., soon it will be :-)

I still think publicly expressing how we feel about their “openness” is the right thing to do. And I’m sure there are people inside OpenAI who feel the same way.

To be fair, that usually implies that you're made tired by the recipient's statement. Like if your child (hypothetical) was misbehaving and you told him "I'm getting tired of your disobedience" that child should expect that you mean you want them to stop being disobedient.

Is it the complaining that is tiresome? Or is it the lying perpetrator who is tiresome?

We should just start calling them Closed AI from now on, just like we used to call Microsoft M$.

That’s always been bad taste as a joke. Like the French boomers who transform “Facebook” into “Face de bouc” thinking it’s funny. It’s really tiresome for people familiar with the subject, but it feels novel to them because they are not well-connected with other people.

Cynical monikers applied to corporations and/or brand names are not meant to be funny, at all. They are often useful warning signs, meant to demonstrate corporate deviousness over time.

C’est Fessse de Bouc :)

ShutAI is catchier.

Open could be used to describe the public interface to the closed model. As compared to Google's pre-chatgpt models which where inaccessible to the public.

Yeah, the trouble is, that they're open like the Apple App Store. They claim to have a fair policy and follow it consistently, but they don't.

https://community.openai.com/t/my-account-has-been-banned-fo... (see related topics for some more)

I think the least they could do is change their name, to better match their new philosophy.

They’ll wait until the first PR meltdown, rebrand as something silly like “Meta” or something, and then fade back into the collective unconscious.

Yeah, the whole 'open' part of this was them aligning themselves philosophically with open-source. But of course they throw that away when the money comes talking...

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