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I wonder if it'll finally have notifications of missed calls, after 16 years.

Ugh, the responses are just depressingly ignorant for a tech site. The iPhone has NEVER had them: https://goldmanosi.blogspot.com/2012/06/will-apple-ever-fix-...

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Are you talking about some specific implementation that you want? Because I know when I miss a call on iOS...

Edit: they want the "Repeat Alerts" setting that "Messages" has but for "Phone" which is missing the option. Settings > Notifications > Messages > Customize Notifications > Repeat Alerts

What are you talking about. Of course it has missed call notifications. Always has.

Nope. It has missed-TEXT notifications. After years of complaints about the lack of missed-call notifications, what does Apple do? Add them for TEXTS only. You can have them repeat up to 10 times.

Now go to the nearly-identical settings screen for Phone. NONE.

Here's a post about it. Older, but still true today: https://goldmanosi.blogspot.com/2012/06/will-apple-ever-fix-...

What are you talking about

Who are you asking? It must not be me, since there's an elaborate explanation (not that it's needed) above.

to be fair your original unedited comment was so vague no one got it until you clarified with the blog post. so maybe there is something for you to take away there

> since there's an elaborate explanation (not that it's needed)

Clearly the explanationn is needed. Most of us didn't understand what you meant. After grasping what you're asking for, I get your request, and I think it'd be nice if Apple implemented this for you and others, but I don't think iOS is broken, nor would I enable such an option if it were implemented – it wouldn't solve a problem for me.

You might try to understand that you are in a minority in wanting this, and that the current behavior is actually acceptable for the vast majority of iPhone users.

I don't buy that. It's just a tiny number of people who

1. Take the time to speak up about it 2. Speak up about it in a forum that you're aware of

Another problem is the diminishing number of people over time who were exposed to more-functional products that were standard in the past. The obvious feature requested here was present on millions of telephonic devices for decades, including cell phones. Android phones have it. But the iPhone is now 15 years old, like many of its users.

The Web is rife with requests for this feature. I posted a tiny sampling of them above.

Ah, you mean the feature where it plings again after 2 minutes?

Yeah that one is for texts only so far.

But lost calls show up as notifications too. It’s just that they won’t pling again.

Are you talking about repeated alerts? “Missed Call” is a notification I regularly see in my Notification Center, but it does only make an alert sound once: immediately after the call stops ringing.

You see it. Not hear it. And you only see it if you happen to be staring at your phone.

So yes, this is the whole problem. The fact that Apple finally added audible notifications, but only for texts, is just infantile pettiness on their part. Truly incredible, since the settings screens are otherwise nearly identical.

Yeah, after reading the link you posted above, I get what you're talking about. Fully agree. I should be able to select any arbitrary notification and enable repeated alerts for it. Not just calls or texts or whatever, but anything that's important to me not to miss.

What's really baffling is that iOS hides older notifications after some amount of time, or screen unlockings, or something. I like to leave notifications around so I can remember to handle them later when I unlock my phone ("oh yeah, I need to read/respond to that email"). Instead iOS just removes them from my lock screen so I don't see them when unlocking and I forget they exist. They're still there--you can swipe up from the bottom to bring back your hidden notifications--but that requires you to remember they're there, which is the whole reason I didn't dismiss them in the first place.

iOS's notification system is shockingly bad. Android is leagues ahead here, both in features & configurability.

I think, given the difficulty you're having getting people to understand what exactly is the feature that you're missing, undercuts the idea that it's an essential feature which is inexcusable to not support.

Not really. Try doing a search on the issue. It has been complained about for the iPhone's entire existence. The "not understanding" here reflects the sad acceptance of ever-falling design standards. People forget how much something sucks when they habitually incorporate workarounds to its failings day after day, year after year.

Missed-call notifications were a standard feature on cell phones way before the iPhone (the StarTAC, for example). Not to mention answering machines. Even microwave ovens beep periodically if you forget to take the food out.

But if you miss a call on Apple's $1000 handheld Unix computer/phone, it doesn't make a peep. You don't even have the OPTION to make it do so. That's simply dumb.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251972613 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251039398 https://community.verizon.com/t5/Apple-Archive/Why-no-repeat... https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7470555 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250513009 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254081341 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254081315 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253503860 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2242972

And on and on...

I've been using iPhones since 2010 and they have always had this feature.

Really? Where do you set the number of repeats, then?

Here's what Apple added for missed TEXTS, but not for phone calls: https://i.imgur.com/nhCrOcL.png

If you can tell me where to find it for phone calls in iOS, I'll appreciate it.

When hasn't it had a notification for a missed call, modulo whatever bug must be plaguing you?

I don’t get it; I receive notifications for missed calls.

They sell a convenient wrist monitor for missed calls.

Ha! Let's call it just another dongle.

I haven’t had my phone unmuted since I started wearing the watch. They are tremendously complementary.

Not that I wear my watch a lot of time but that’s far more reliable notification than anything in my phone. Though I turn the vast bulk of my potential notifications off anyway.

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