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So is he either a figure head that can work remotely because he doesn’t matter, or is he doing “real work” and it turns out that working remotely does work?

Execs like to paint working remotely as something that is wasteful and so the common employee shouldn’t be allowed to do so, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of their remote work.

It’s reminiscent of the time I worked at one company and the chairman of the board showed up to give us a rousing speech that included the fact that he only showed up because he was going to a board meeting for another company whose board he was on in the same city. This was less than a month after one of our coworkers got shit canned after it was found out that he was moonlighting.

This is a bit ranty by the tl;dnr is that lots of jobs align with remote work and I am personally pissed that you try to frame it as ok because it’s a CEO and then in the next sentence you try to blunt the message by saying he’s just a “co-ceo” so it’s not that bad

Just read the article. He doesn't like to work from the office because he said he prefers to be on the road meeting customers.

Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person.

The only reason I said "co-ceo" is because I was responding to someone who, for whatever reason, thinks a multi-billion public company shouldn't have its CEO talk to customers.

I agree with you, people are twisting your words and setting up a strawman.

I think that proves a point that some jobs can be done outside of the office, so why not have people work where they prefer? For this CEO it's on the road. For a lot of people it's at home. For a lot of people it's both.

That’s odd because the the brand of WFH that most people I’ve met want is identical to what they do in the office sans the commute. That being that they hop onto a zoom meeting with people who are in other physical locations or they are working independently and the office is just a distraction.

Another commenter mentioned that people were setting up a straw man against your words but I can’t agree. You keep implying that it’s rational for c levels to be working remote and then implying that regular employees only want wfh because they are just anti social.

Your comments are heavily biased with one viewpoint and I heartily disagree with it

> You keep implying that it’s rational for c levels to be working remote and then implying that regular employees only want wfh because they are just anti social.

Why change what was said? The statement wasn't about "c levels" - it was one person who is on the road a lot meeting customers. Like a super senior sales role. That's different to team/collaboration-based roles where colocation might (just before you change this too: remember - might) well massively improve things.

Then you should specify that you believe the role is effectively a senior sales position instead of referring to them as a ceo, hence you talking about c levels. If you think all ceos are in this situation then you effectively are referring to c levels.

If you want to season your comments about regular employees with “might” you should also do that from the get go. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt as this is hacker news and not Reddit, but opening up the position by stating

> Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person.

Doesn’t give the impression that you have a nuanced take on the matter and came off like you were categorically against regular employees working from home

> Then you should specify that you believe the role is effectively a senior sales position instead of referring to them as a ceo

I've made one comment where I did that (although of course we need to call him a CEO because that's his job title). What are you talking about?

I’ve been working from home for years. I leave the house and interact with real humans in person all the time. Sometimes I interact with real humans in person at home!

You go looking outside offices, it turns out there’re people everywhere. Who knew?

> Meanwhile, the brand of WFH HN folks want is to not leave the house and interact with real humans in person.

You've made this statement a few times in this thread, have you considered this is nothing more than a strawman?

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