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EU confirms six (mostly US) tech giants are subject to Digital Markets Act

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55 pointsbookofjoe11 comments

Seemingly no iMessage, unfortunately.

I guess Apple won that argument. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37401632

edit: the article actually mentions iMessage explicitly:

> And the newspaper reported the Commission was still deliberating over the inclusion of Bing and iMessage.

> In the event, the EU looks to be taking a cautious approach to this early pushback — since, as noted above, both Bing and iMessage are not on the initial list of 22 core platform services. Instead, the Commission has agreed to take a closer look at Apple and Microsoft’s arguments that these services should be excluded.

They're probably right within the EU tbh

Sounds like we need to do the same thing in the US then.

I really don't understand how they managed to wiggle themselves out of this. iMessage only works on Apple hardware which actively prevents communication between users of other devices (Windows, Linux, Android).

Sure, their argument is that people use other messaging apps when they need to communicate with people on other platforms, but that was one of the main points of the DMA, to make the products provided by Gatekeepers interoperate with other services.

So it means WhatsApp will be required to operate with other services, but they won't be able to do that with iMessage because Apple isn't required to participate...

I'm curious how this will all pan out and how these services will twist their interpretation of the legislation to make sure they remain dominant and keep users in their silos.

Why do these EU laws never seem to target EU companies? On that note its past time for the US DOJ to break up EssilorLuxottica.

Because there are nearly no giant EU tech companies trying to monopolize the world.

the EU has plenty of companies trying to monopolize the world. For example EssilorLuxottica.

What does that have to do with the Digital Markets Act?

I'm not really sure how EssilorLuxottica is relevant to questions of digital markets, but I do agree that the US should break them up (at least in the US market).

I'm curious, what big EU tech companies so big they would be subjected to regulation? AFAIK it's mostly telcos, consulting and semiconductors makers. Telcos are already heavily regulated (at least here in Italy), the rest doesn't really quality for consumer protection laws being B2B.

Does anyone have a clear understanding of what the expected tangible impacts are in regards to Safari and Chrome?

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