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The iPad Pro has had 100% standard USB C ports for years now.

The conspiracy theories never made sense.

The iPad Pro used a separate USB controller which adds cost, space, power making it a no go on the phones. The A17 is the first A series with integrated USB3 controller.

Wasn't the USB4 controller on the newer Pro models on die? Should be the same used by Apple Silicon Macs

> The iPad Pro used a separate USB controller

The iPad Pro has used M series SOCs with an integrated USB controller for years now.

I am talking about the 4th gen and prior iPad Pros with A series cpus and USB3, not M series which also have built in USB3 controllers, I thought I made the A series part clear.

M series being much larger and more power hungry would also have the same issues in a phone, hence the two different series, so my point still stands.

Apple sucks and tries to not follow standards until it needs to... Thats not conspiracy theories.... Thats just the truth

yeah, like their proprietary USB connector on iMacs, or their proprietary USB-C connector on Macbooks in 2016, or when they invented Thunderbolt all by themselves, and the time they didn't make Firewire and open standard…

What are you talking about? Proprietary connectors I can think of…

- A bunch of ridiculous digital video ports, necessary because the whole industry couldn't agree on how to move on from VGA.

- The "dock connector" — literally nothing else in the industry, even after its introduction, could meet all the needs of that thing, up until…

- Lightning. USB-C was still years away, and the attempts at small USB were a garbage fire.

At least they are being forced to add USB-C to their iphones

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