The licensing from sublime is very amenable, I believe, far from what companies like Adobe force on their end users, IMO.
The licensing from sublime is very amenable, I believe, far from what companies like Adobe force on their end users, IMO.
The eye rolls I get. Bro. You're literally getting paid 150k at a minimum, you can she'll out 100 dollars a year.
not to say you shouldn't support great companies but the average programmer salary isn't 150k. it's probably not even half that.
https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/computer-programm...
Programmers with experience do make a good living but FAANG style jobs vastly skew what people think the average programmer makes. Just like unicorn companies make people forget that the vast majority of companies fail.
https://expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions/538/how-to-m...
I live a comfortable life. I rent a flat in the city centre which is big enough for me, my wife, and my son. We eat out. We travel abroad about once per quarter (UK, Switzerland mostly). I wouldn't call Budapest 'bumfuck nowhere', and I don't think there are many significant compromises on my quality of life. The one concession I would make is that we don't have a car, it's just unnecessary.
We could easily get by on my salary alone just by reducing the frequency of our travels to three times a year, but as my family lives outside Hungary, we don't. There aren't many folks anywhere in the world who could say that they can support a family on a single income.
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In the US, especially in NY, 120k or so is starting salary at a startup. Maybe 110k at some. Normal pay for a Sr engineer is 170k -> 220k.
Now if we go into FAANG numbers, double or tripple that as total comp.
But to be fair, there's a lot that your society gives you that we don't get. I currently pay 2k a month for health insurance for myself and my daughter, 3k for me, daughter, and fiance. Companies do better with insurance as they get better. And even with insurance we often pay for many services out of pocket. I pay 2.6k for an apartment and it _IS CHEAP_ because I live an hour away from manhattan, most people pay 4-5k a month for a 1 bedroom, or room with many people.
Also where I live a car is not mandatory but incredibly convenient. Which means another 166/mo for insurance + whatever you pay for the car which can easily end up in the $1000 a month for the car (because parking is not great)
The pay is high, but the cost is high too, it just makes certain things cheap by comparison.
$50k can provide for a small family here, but cars and MacBooks are much more expensive for us.
I would like a nice Git GUI, but GitKraken pricing is nonsense. I've settled with Fork, but I would prefer it if there was a native Linux version.
There's more of the world than SV. Most people outside of those areas do not make that much or even close to it.
Some of the comments on HN have a vibe of "Let them eat cake" - they are out of touch with how most of us plebs in the rest of the world are living.
And then I realize that the rich influence all the decision making that affects the poor - and it scares me.
(BTW: I assume this number is yearly; $12.5K/mo. Which is multiple times the average dev pay out where I live. Even in the States, I assume no one pulls $150K/monthly, amiright?)
This number is doubled or trippled for one of the big boys because of directly tradable equity.
Where? This website can be so frustrating with all the silicon valley privileged richy riches.
You understand that 150k is a massive salary?
Sublime is personally worth $0 to me because I wouldn't use it at all regardless of what I paid for it. And I say that as someone who bought every new version starting from the first one up until ~2018. VS Code is just that much better.
The trouble here is that "better" comes at a cost that the community has yet to truly realize, and Microsoft is very good at playing the long, slow bleed game; if strategic fractures[1] come to fruition, that debt will be repaid and it's going to be very expensive.
While reading this I realized I could easily say that cncf/k8s has fractured the container community.
Is there actually a cost, though? I mean, I understand the argument over the strategic aspect of adopting a tool that may or may not continue with acceptable terms, but is that risk really significant?
By now vscode is already 8 years old and there is no concrete hint that licensing will change. Even so it's hardly irreplaceable.
Isn't this one of those problems where it only makes sense to worry about them if they really happen?
I don't think usage alone does amount for anything. Other free offering will not go away and if something would happen, many (including me, a casual Code user) would simply switch back to what we used before, or a new thing.
MS will not manage to extuingish the "competition" because the competition doesn't even compete, they release their editors and IDEs and simply exist.
Perhaps my expectations on performance are ruined, but to me vscode feels very snappy even on old hardware.
When it comes to Sublime these days it's hard to see why I'd pay for proprietary software, likely more than once when there's everything from Vim to Emacs, to VsCode and a dozen others.
People are always more willing to spend on entertainment where they get personal joy … than on tools.
So you have no choice than to buy your own tools & it directly affects your ability to earn.
In tech, that’s not typically the case.
The things you use every day for quite a bit plus one time purchase - sure.
But let's take some hypothetical note-taking tool I access 2 times per day for one minute. Am I willing to pay a subscription for 60 minutes of use per month? nope.
And the same is true for development tools I purely use for my fun projects. I kinda like IDEA but 170€ per year? No way, I regularly don't need an IDE for months at a time. Their one-time purchase (was it like 300?) wasn't much better. I don't personally like Sublime, but if I did, 99€ one time sounds absolutely fair.
The problem arises when there are a dozen tools.
So yeah, my main gripe is with subscriptions, but no, I can't simply justify those purchases to feel more productive in my spare time. I don't really care if I theoretically would need twice as much time to code a feature for a few hours a week. Games are fun, and sometimes art - I enjoy them and so I am willing to pay.
In work settings I'm mostly a tool developer myself, so it might sound weird, but I wouldn't want to work for a company that sells a product to end users that does something I can get done 90% with FLOSS tools and fix the bugs I encounter.
It's 170e/year if you keep paying for it. You can stop and get to keep the latest version you payed.
Example: IDEA 1.0 is out now and you pay 170e. 12 months later IDEA 1.9 is out .. if you pay another 170e you get to use 1.9+ If you don't pay you stay on IDEA 1.0. If you cancel earlier than 12 months you don't get to keep anything.