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The UI is many orders of magnitude better. uMatrix vs uBlock Origin is a textbook case. UbO's matrix is the masochist's teapot in the cover page of The Design of Everyday Things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Design_of_Everyday_Things uMatrix is a teapot with the handle where it should be.

If uMatrix will stop working I'll install NoScript. I'll keep using UbO for ads and cosmetic filtering.

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How so? I think uBO has a pretty nice UX for what I want to do.

Especially like the element picker UI, where you can independantly control what element you want in the hierarchy and also how specific the selector should be.

> How so? I think uBO has a pretty nice UX for what I want to do.

I'm happy for you but I think uBO has a horrible UX for what I want to do.

The element picker is wonderful and I use it a lot especially on my phone but the part that reimplemented uMatrix is a huge and inexplicable regression.

You use both(UbO and uMatrix)? I didn’t realize uMatrix dev had been discontinued until just now, but between Brave shields and uMatrix I do a lot of clicking just to get stuff to work properly when browsing. Do you have to toggle/config uBlock often?

I use Firefox. I don't know what's a Brave shield.

I use uMatrix + uBO on desktop and NoScript + uBO on mobile.

I use uBO's UI mainly for the element picker. The part that reimplemented uMatrix is too hard to understand and to use, hence my comment about the teapot that pours tea from above the handle.

I'm using NoScript on my phone because it has a better UI for that. I use uMatrix on my desktop because it's better than NoScript. I don't use uMatrix on my phone because it's not available on mobile. I would if it was.

Sorry, I could have been more clear. Brave is a browser with a feature called Shield, an anti-tracking feature, a click of the icon disables it/reloads page. So my workflow is up to 3 clicks if I just want to disable everything, which I do when I'm in a hurry sometimes.

I was wondering how often you had to interact with uBO mostly, which was answered in sibling comment.

I'm switching back to an android phone, mostly for a better browsing experience, so I'll try Firefox/NoScript+uBO combo. I'm using uMatrix everywhere else(except on iOS) but no uBO, I thought uMatrix covered everything uBO does but I guess not so I'll try both.

Also, I believe some versions of nightly Firefox (on mobile) can support uMatrix, IIRC.

Thanks for the breakdown!

If you rely on default config uBO just works, but if you go furthur in blocking things (or add third party filters) tinkering may be required for certain webpages (or a lot depending on how hard you go)

Great that's what I was looking for, I'll try combining the two.

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