The MacBook Air M2 is so good it's given Apple a problem
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Come to think of it, my Apple Watch is about five years old and still does everything I need.
Apple is transitioning to a partially services company, which is a good move. Apple gets about $45/month from my family.
EDIT: I also usually get at least four years service from Mac laptops, and even longer for two really old ones that run Linux.
In fact I nearly purchased a macbook but decided to roll the device on an upgrade instead first because it was so cheap to do so. This would never happen with an apple device - my six year old windows laptop's upgrade to 6/6e was a $25 part purchased on Amazon and replaced on the motherboard in a matter of minutes. That's the other reason I'm not really dying to buy an apple device, no matter how portable or how great battery life is: it's a wasting asset that is designed to be unrepairable, much less upgradeable. And although it can be handy to do development locally, mosh/ssh and guacamole make it so there's no compelling reason to upgrade my six year old laptop either.
I think that's a good thing.
Have you replaced the battery on the watch? I ask because it seems to me I get maybe 2-3 years per watch before the battery life begins to noticeably degrade.
Disagree. Currently, between Android and iOS, Apple is the less-worse option. If they went heavily into subscriptions, that would make them a less compelling choice.
I felt the same about the early MacBook Airs too, and my iPads. Reaching a local optimum is not necessarily a bad thing.
My brother still uses my 2012 original retina MBP, and it works fine. For most people, upgrading every 4 or 5 years is more than enough for any Mac.
My 4 years old work windows laptop is a dell xp13 with an i7-8something cpu and is more than enough for anyone who was ok with that laptop when it came out.
Which is not to say the m2 isn't awesome, but since bazillion core cpu and nvme drives became commonplace there isn't much beside very heavy usage (gaming, ia, ... anything that require a top level gpu) that can stop an "old" computer, even a laptop.
But I easily could've kept using it for another several years for all but the most demanding software and it was an i7-3770k/16gb/GTX980/various SSDs/HDDs.
Still, I understand that the form factor meant that portability wasn't an issue. The difference between a 10yo laptop and a modern one would've been much, much more noticeable.
Unfortunately Apple followed up with some missteps like the awful "butterfly" keyboard, and the unpopular touch bar which initially removed a physical ESC key.
I still have the scars: I no longer use a Caps Lock key, even on my newer computers — it’s permanently mapped to ESC…
I don't quite agree. Switching from USB-C back to magsafe feels like a downgrade, and it makes no sense at all to provide only 2 USB-C ports on the left side when some models not only provided a pair on each side but also they could all be used to charge the laptop.
Insisting on 8GB of RAM is also completely unjustified, specially as some miniPCs that ship with more RAM are sold for less than the cost of upgrading RAM on any laptop from the MacBook line.
I welcome the new MagSafe cable. IMO, they should never have gotten rid of it in the first place.
hm?
There are fine-tuned 70B models have higher benchmark scores than gpt-3.5, and when quantized they can run on a 64GB Macbook.
https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderb...
https://huggingface.co/spaces/gsaivinay/open_llm_leaderboard
This year we have seen consumer prices for RAM hit 64GB (2x32GB) for less than $100.
I wouldn’t extrapolate memory price trends for the next 10 years because we are getting into weird territory but from the perspective of product design it’s an enticing prospect.
There is only a marginal difference in my backpack, I don't really notice it. But every time I was using the smaller device I was getting annoyed with the small screen and cramped keyboard/trackpad setup.
2012 mba 11: 300 x 192 (11.8 x 7.56 inches)
2023 mba m2: 304 x 215 (11.97 x 8.46 inches)
~ same width, and only ~2cm deeper for a much bigger screen. Its very much worth it imho.
Seriously? Drop an M3 in there as soon as it’s ready.
Also, Apple still sells 8GB machines with a $200 upgrade to 16GB.
Moore’s Law might be dead but we shouldn’t go down without a fight.
But yes, how Apple prices upgrades is a little irritating in light of other options.
But sure, the raspberry pi. 2gb for $45. 4gb for $55(22% increase). 8gb for $75(66% increase over base)
Both definitely price for higher margins for buyers who want more memory.
Apple uses LPDDR5 6400MHz
They're definitely still making extravagant margins on their upgrades.
They do seem to be moving to multiples of twelve for their newer machines. M2 supports 8/16/24. M3 Pro is rumored to support up to 48GB.
My hope is that an M3 MacBook Air would start at 12GB with 24GB optional. M3 Pro could be 24/48, M3 Max 48/96, etc.
Everyone was crying out for this a few years ago from AMD, give us an APU with HBM or something! But because it’s from the Fruit Brand they now have to invent reasons to hate it.
Apple being stubborn missed an opportunity to work with Nintendo for their Switch 2
There are rumors about Apple working on a console, so maybe that'll happen some day
Game Porting Toolkit is a hint
So, we're currently at about 283 million iPads sold since the Switch launch, missing 2023 - so maybe more like 310-320 million, for all uses cases which go far beyond gaming. 130 million Nintendo Switches. Pretty reasonable to say they are pretty even.
Except, of course, they aren't even in the high-quality, paid games market where the revenue on iOS is a joke. How many games does iOS have that are paid, don't have IAPs, timers, or Loot Boxes? How many support local multiplayer on the same device? Switch has got hundreds, if not thousands; iOS has... name five.
The flip side though is that so many Apple Arcade titles are also available on Switch. Even ones that Apple showed in their presentations. You can also actually buy them without a subscription.
The a la carte virtual console has given way for paid subscription access to curated collections of games. You can't buy retro games on the switch the way you could on the Wii and Wii U.
All that to say, you can argue consoles in some cases are moving more in the direction of tablets and phones to capture that wider market.
There could be, but it's not an Apple priority. Maybe one day it will be—who knows.
I think it's confusing to look at yearly sales because so many of the children already have ipads. You don't need a very new ipad to run Minecraft.
That's exactly why I bought a Nintendo Switch and not an iPad, and the reason why I'm excited about the Switch 2 (and I'm not alone in my circle, including the youngest generation)
The price gap looks big, but it’s actually not.
If you consider the upgrade to 16GB or RAM and 512GB of storage, you’re already at $1500 for the 13” model or $1700 for the 15” model.
$1999 gets you the 14” MacBook Pro with 16GB/512GB standard, where you a get better screen, microphone, speakers, processor, graphics, thermal performance, I/O including HDMI port and dual external screen support.
You sacrifice a little weight and thickness but not much else, and the difference in a backpack (especially with the 15” Air) is minimal.
And here’s the other thing: you can just pick up the M1 14” MacBook Pro and essentially have a better machine in every way at a very similar cost to the base price of the M2 Air models.
You can’t really do that in the same way with the M1 Air because you’re sacrificing the newer superior form factor to get a system with a really ancient design, large bezels, and bad webcam, while the M1 MacBook Pro compared to the M2 is a nearly identical system with almost all of the same advantages.
The 8GB/256GB models of the MacBook Air are a price anchor more than a practical model, because I think that the majority of buyers should upgrade at least one of those specs if not both regardless of how light their usage is.
the big problem with the 8/256 is not that it's useless, it's that it's the primary model retailers like costco, bestbuy, etc purchse. So you end up with these great sales on useless computers. I'm sure some clueless people buy them and suffer from that but I can't recommend them to anybody. The price ends up being double the 8/256 price once the sales occur. 8/256 for $800 or 900 vs 16/512/or 1TB for 1600+ infuriating.
$1200 for an 8GB M2 Air, though... It's a bit steep in comparison, but on it's own, it's really a 13" MBP inside... And if it's practically a Pro, why not just get the 14" for $1600?
I think their final lineup of sickly Intel Macs really distorted things with the operations-centric "come get your ports, lol" pricing. Those are awful machines, and setting the expectation that a device's capability should be related to its display size was such a thinly veiled intelligence test. Between barely refreshing their hardware over a decade (the trashcan Pro was X79-based) and Batterygate, it wasn't their brightest era.
I refuse on principal to carry an iPad and a macbook, since its basically the same hardware, and iOS apps should run on Macbooks (and do, if the developer hasn't outright blocked them, which sadly most do).
"The company also says its power management update – introduced in 2017 to manage demands on older batteries or with a low level of charge – only reduced an iPhone 6's performance by an average of 10%."
https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-fights-2-bln-london...
I expect a lot of machines will be orphaned when macOS switches to ARM-only.
Not a mini. But I've also got an iBook G4 that runs OpenBSD.
The storage is expandable externally, and the RAM is actually quite usable even on heavy loads.
the storage is not expandable actually. 256 is pathetic unless you only have cloud based workflows (which is what apple wants obvious for that reoccuring revenue).
disclaimer: Sienna owner.
I have tried a variety of methods of expanding the storage. I bought an M1 system with this very thought.
None of the USB storage devices I tried worked well. MacOS drops every device I tried periodically. Sometimes it would go as long as a week, but I'd have to yank it and plug it back in for it to continue to work. Very unreliable for a permanent storage augmentation.
NFS doesn't work, MacOS issues. Samba has been the most reliable network storage drive method, but it tends to be slow on my middling servers - and I really tried to optimize it.
If you really want to do this, I suggest trying the thunderbolt route.
I'm guessing not (it's already wrapped in the box) and I imagine it can't be accessed by software alone. Like, blown fuses.
Laptops aren't fast fashion.
On the software side of things, I’m going to do all my dev work in containers via Codespaces/CodeCatalyst. Apparently someone has made a native android version of vscode now, if not there is the browser version. For gaming, I can use an 8bitdo SN30 Pro/razor kishi and Nvidia GeForce Now which in addition to the standard streaming library allows you to play games you’ve already purchased on Steam. I’m opting for taking two 8bitdos as well as a usb-c to hdmi cable in case I make any friends on the go I have a portable 2 player gaming setup that doesn’t take up much more space than a sunglasses case. If that doesn’t end up happening after a year or so I’ll ditch the 8bitdos and the cable and get a kishi for more convenient solo gaming. I was originally going to do this entire setup with a Steam Deck instead of an android but found it awkward to pack and it’s also not available worldwide so if something happened to my machine in say Australia, I wouldn’t easily be able to get another one without waiting a while and paying through the nose.
If there’s any specialist software I want to use, I’ll spin up a cloud instance for it using AWS/Azure, there’s a few options for this now:
- AWS workspaces and Azure Virtual Desktop if you want a GUI desktop experience in the browser.
- AWS Appstream and Azure RemoteApp if you want to stream just a single application.
- EC2 and Azure VMs if you’re no bothered about a GUI or you want to roll everything yourself.
I don’t expect to have to do this often as I reckon I can get by on mainly android apps. I use Obsidian for notes, there’s Adobe Premiere Rush for video editing etc.
If you want more examples, head over to the Samsung Dex subreddit. There’s quite a few people on there who have ditched their computers and have been using Dex for the last year.
They have the same keyboard as the MBA / MBP 2015. The old Apple Scissors keyboard. Unfortunately Apple wanted every one to get used to typing like on iPad Screen they slim down the key distance to ridiculous level aka Butterfly. The new Magic keyboard is no where as good as scissors.
>So where does Apple go next?
Better Built in Camera although I am not sure how that is possible given how slim the lid is, and if they move to OLED for power efficiency it will be even slimmer.
Intergated 5G Modem. Apple should have a 4G/5G only modem ( Not even 3G ) on MacBook to test out all quirks before it is even used on iPhone.
And then a 3nm / 2nm M Series that is just more efficient.
I mean these small but important iteration are enough for all the way till 2030. The form factor and power level itself has reached the end of the S curve.
Note: I am still on my MBP 2015. So that is coming close to 10 years of using it. The last real improvement I see was the M1. But I hate the keyboard so much those improvement dont compare. Hopefully I could use this for another 3-5 years.
Please no, in any laptop. Mobile networks evolve faster than the computing hardware, and 5G (as well as 3G and 4G) is somewhat meaningless as 3G/4G/5G operate on different bands on different frequencies in different countries which means laptops will become region locked again.
Over the last 12 years, laptop mobile modems have morphed from ugly PCMCIA extension cards through USB dongles through to portable WiFi enabled mobile devices (MiFi devices), 3G has seen a nearly full demise, 4G is nearing one whereas the laptop from 12 years ago can still work irrespective of the mobile network evolution.
The MiFi devices seems to be the sweet spot as they decouple the laptop from the mobile network technology, are cheaper and easier to upgrade and also come with an added benefit of allowing multiple devices to connect to the mobile network which results in a better mobile network capacity utilisation as opoposed to each device requiring a separate capacity slot.
The "MiFi" is one more thing you need to keep charged and have to put up with shitty firmware.
Region locking isn't a big concern - as far as I know no iPhones are region-locked (the appropriate one might perform better in certain areas, but nobody is outright locking you out?), and Macbooks are already region-specific anyway based on keyboard layouts.
Granted, 5G is the best we have had so far, 4G was worse, and 3G was even worse. 2G effectively did not exist outside Europe and most Asia, for the US had incompatible TDMA and CDMA networks and only got 2G on a largely unsupported 1.9GHz frequency with exactly one mobile operator, which only the Motorola and a few other handsets could use. To travel to South Korea, one had to acquire a CDMA handset, for the country did not have 2G GSM networks.
I am not claiming that MiFi is a perfect solution. It is a solid compromise, though. I am also aware of the firmware problems (my current 5G MiFi device does not even properly support WPA3), but I can live with that for now and will replace the device at a smaller cost compared to a laptop replacement cost. I am okay with that.
2. 5G will last for another 10-15 years as it is not even fully rolled out. That is long enough for a Laptop to get supported. The extreme speed transition of 3G-4G to 5G was because of Smartphone revolution. We are ( arguably ) at peak Smartphone already.
On top of that, there is the channel bandwidth that also varies depending on the spectrum channel utilisation. In some areas (or countries), the channel might already be utilised for something else, for example a national train network communication system or by military. Such spectrum channels can't be reallocated, so usually new, country specific, channels are allocated. A capable, laptop integrated modem would have to support them all.
Some regional mobile operators have also extended their networks with non-standard frequencies that are locally important but are not supported outside the home turf (Australia's Telstra and Scandinavian mobile operators are prime examples. Telstra even has its own research division, and they have extended the spectrum with non-standard frequencies more than once. They have also licenced their technology to mobile operators overseas on a small scale, e.g. Hong Kong's CSL and to others). You can check the actual spectrum allocation for 4G and 5G at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_frequency_bands and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G_NR_frequency_bands, respectively. It varies from 410MHz to 5.9GHz for 4G and from 600MHz to 71GHz (!) for 5G NR with most 5G frequencies being upward of 2.6GHz – to avoid the interference with 4G.
Most importantly, though, the radio wave interference plays the fundamental role. Whilst 4G and 5G might share parts of the spectrum on the paper (which varies wildly for each), they can't share the same channel at once even if the modulation is different. It is not possible to go against the laws of physics and magically have two different standards to share the same radio frequency. Electromagnetic waves will interfere when the channel utilisation goes up.
Then there is the supply problem. There is exactly one commercial 5G modem vendor in the entire world. It is Qualcomm. And their modems are not known neither for the power efficiency nor for the low heat dissipation – they are both, power hungry and run stinking hot, when in use.
2. That remains to be seen. 6G is already under development and is undergoing the early testing. It is too far away from a world wide deployment, but it will be in the terahertz spectrum == incompatibility with existing technologies.
> Despite being a laptop that's light enough to pick up with two fingers, the MacBook Air M2 can run the likes of Total War: Warhammer 3, a game that can make my slightly long-in-the-tooth gaming PC splutter.
For reference, the $400 Steam Deck also runs it just fine: https://youtu.be/OhkVjcFGEAQ
The article hits a nail on the head here, but this feels more like a broader industry problem. "Where do we go next" is also the current problem that AMD and Nvidia are both facing too. If Intel wasn't working on improving their fabs and services, they'd probably be in the same boat.
We now have so much compute power on-the-go that we struggle to use it all properly. It's a good problem to have! For my money, the "final frontier" is more capable software.
* (Yeah, right.)
Really? A touch screen on a laptop just seems like a feature no user ever asked for. It makes sense that devices like tablets and phones have touch’s screens. It’s how the evolved. But laptops have keyboards - why do they need a feature of touch devices?
What problem does this solves for users?