A Senior Engineer's Check-List (2019)
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1. Be able to make a design decision - among multiple options and with incomplete data and uncertainties, a senior engineer needs to be able to make a decision and be accountable for it in order to move the project forward. I think a good interview question would be to ask about their difficult design decisions.
2. Be able to identify wrong solution (most of the time) - maybe this comes with technical competency but a lot of resource is wasted chasing solutions that with the benefit of experience, should have been evident early on.
Senior engineers should not be con-men.
What you decide and do now, affects what you can and must decide next.
Except unlike in chess we don't really have the exact rules of the game anywhere. Still we must make choices which affect what moves can be chosen later.
It is also like building a house, once you decide how to build the ground-floor and what it stands on, that greatly affects how the floors above that can be built (not too heavy, not too light etc.).
It is often difficult to understand all the consequences of a design decision, what can be done and chosen after that, until you actually implement that design.
It happens all the time of course. But I wonder if it is a bit of a trivial concept. Of course what was done before will affect what is the optimal choice now.
But I agree it is good to keep it in mind -- when you are making the current decisions. If I decide this way now, what is the cost of my available options in the future? Pretty much the way chess-players evaluate their possible moves.
While I am sympathetic to the concept of reasoning under uncertainty, the way you've framed it is hardly engineering anymore.
Design projects come with a spectrum of data requirements, and each has its own cost function for improved accuracy. For example, knowing exactly how long the bridge you need to build matters greatly, and the cost of surveying should be pretty low. In contrast, measuring the soil at the site you build on top of has a variety[1] of options with varying costs. You can't ever be 100 percent certain that your sampling was good enough, but the samples more you have the more confident you can be. Depending on the project and design, you may not need the most expensive and most accurate option, but you probably don't want to just rely on priors built through "experience."
Translating this to the world of software, we have a variety of data collection strategies. A/B tests, canaries, software instrumentation, tracing, offsite monitoring, f-scores, beta tests, market surveys, and more. The best thing you can do as an engineer making an uninformed choice is to design the system to collect the data you are missing and to make it easy to change your design later. Amazon calls these "two way doors" versus "one way doors"; if your decision was wrong you can go back and make a different choice. As an example, if you are designing a caching system, spending a bit of time to generalize the API will allow you to swap between policies as you collect data about cache hit rates. If you don't, the cost of changing your mind goes up as more things depend on the nuances of your API.
Rather valorize making uninformed decisions, I'd prefer to valorize flexibility and continuous data collection. Seen this way, the old adage "There's never enough time to do it right, but always plenty of time to do it over" is a coherent philosophy.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geotechnical_investigation#Soi...
... sooo there is no distinction between a senior engineer and a non-senior engineer? you've really said nothing in this comment.
senior engineers have seen enough things to know what the right solution is in many cases, without having to take a bunch of time to collect evidence. that's what makes them senior, not just 'good'.
When dealing with uncertainty (nearly always) it's generally easier to identify and rule out what 'wrong' solutions are. There are often multiple obviously 'wrong' options (no, we should not keep a user's password in plaintext, even if the goal is to make it easy to recover a lost password), but picking a 'right' one... from a whittled down list, it may often come down to familiarity or convention rather than an arbitrary "this is the only 100% correct solution".
1. Identify every project dimension with risks. The big one: project -> use -> user -> reward -> costumer fit? (Where user and customer may, or may not be the same.)
Price cost economics? Technical complexity? Technical experience shortfalls? Project resource availability? Solution resource efficiency? Safety? Third party dependencies?
2. Identify each significant risk in each risk dimension.
3. Identify the simplest question (or two) whose answer will reduce or eliminate each risk.
4. If a risk can’t be mitigated by answering a single question (or two), maybe it is really a combination of risks, or risk dimensions. If so break them out, repeat.
4. Craft the simplest research task to resolve each risk question.
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This sequence is a special case of focusing energy on upstream tasks, before investing in downstream tasks.
Or as I like to say: move slow to move fast.
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A meta risk is loops in risk/work dependencies.
Classic example: Stakeholder wants to see something working before you resolve risks of getting something working.
Identify the simplest, sparsest form of a loop is one way forward.
Alternatively, break the loop. Identify alternate ways to satisfy the stakeholder. Find a way to remove dependency on the stake holder (constructively).
This is what the previous commenter referred to as "making a decision without all the evidence". If the senior engineer turns out to be right, and the hypothesis proves true, the experiment becomes the system. If the hypothesis turns out false, the system might still be workable, otherwise it's refactored into some new experiment.
The senior engineer is better at making that initial guess as the correctness of a hypothesis. Just like a senior scientist.
Engineering is all about what you do when you don't have perfect information.
This is why real engineers have things called "safety margins".
So you need to instead have a series of features that are architecturally solid, have KPIs to measure success, and be willing to throw out working production code that doesn't move metrics enough to warrant their complexity.
From what I can tell, that is the only good predictor we have. See Tversky's work with the IDF or the available CTA methods for studying expertise, e.g. CDM.
One trap with lists like this is that it can be easy to lose sight of your core workload. On more than one occasion I’ve had to ask senior engineers to pump the brakes on all of their mentoring, leading, organizing, example-setting, and helping activities because their own work was not getting done.
You only have so many hours in a work week. Get your priority work done first, then layer in additional activities selectively. Don’t think you need to be doing all of these things on the list all of the time.
And to mentor and help others may very well be the best spent time for the company as a whole. But then his biggest tasks should be done by one of his more junior team-members.
I think I get the motivation, an engineer managing a team of engineers can achieve "more" in less time. However I put "more" in quotes because a single expert engineer can build better, faster, and more reliable than an entire team, once they have mastered the systems and tools. That will never happen if they rarely touch code and instead attend meetings to talk about planning and scheduling.
You may be getting a short-term benefit at a huge long-term cost.
The 'ask "why"' bit? Gold. It's not just about coding but understanding the bigger picture. Feedback loops in software? Amazing. Feedback in career growth? Equally crucial.
It's a solid reminder that our game isn't just code; it's the soft skills too. They can seriously make or break your trajectory. But as always, while guides are great, everyone's path in tech is unique. It's like code; it evolves, iterates, and adapts.
Though, I would like to emphasize this is clearly an Individual Contributor kind of a perspective. There are hardly any bullet points encouraging building and maintaining work culture, growing other people, serving as an example to follow. Maybe a handful out of the 60 fall into this bucket.
Thus don't consider this list anywhere near complete if your career path envisions being a manager (of different kinds).
Well the title is literally about being a “Senior Engineer”, not a manager. That said, there are numerous bullet points about mentoring others, leading by example, and setting work culture. Number 18 is “Be a mentor to a couple of junior engineers.”
> Thus don't consider this list anywhere near complete if your career path envisions being a manager (of different kinds).
While you’re not wrong, I don't think anyone should expect a checklist titled “Senior Engineer’s Checklist” to cater to management items. A manager’s checklist would subtract a lot of the IC items from this list.
Management isn’t a superset of IC work. It’s a different job.
> Keep your manager up-to-date on people you have difficulty working with
If one of my directs came to a one on one and shared their updated enemy-list with me, I'd be pretty concerned.
Overall, it just sounds like they plan on making problems and then bringing them to me to resolve. Which, sure, would require 'managing'.
Yeah…again, I’m trying to communicate respectfully, but I really think these perspectives aren’t fit for being responsible for others’ employment.
Out of context guidance consisting of little faux-wise aphorisms like that of the OP is just kind of inherently amusing, especially when offered earnestly, precisely because it is open to misinterpretation - and my suggestion that it could be interpreted as advice to keep your manager apprised of who's currently on your enemies list was meant to illustrate that risk.
As putative advice to senior engineers for how to conduct themselves, it struck me as something which some toxic engineers might take as endorsing their superior attitude. That makes it bad advice, and that's why I'm mocking it.
But how I react to the idea of this sort of thing being offered as career advice, respectfully, tells you absolutely nothing about how I conduct myself in my professional role.
Yeah....again....not an enemies list.
> As putative advice to senior engineers for how to conduct themselves, it struck me as something which some toxic engineers might take as endorsing their superior attitude. That makes it bad advice, and that's why I'm mocking it.
Yeah...again...this perception is a toxic _manager_ trait.
> But how I react to the idea of this sort of thing being offered as career advice, respectfully, tells you absolutely nothing about how I conduct myself in my professional role.
We can disagree, that's fine. Thankfully you don't work in my organization, so your opinion is of 0 value to me. I had (obviously incorrectly) hoped some sane feedback might make you reevaluate your behavior, but alas stubbornness prevails. Hopefully your reports can manage working with you effectively.
Pretty nifty, if you think about it. Storage stays local, it looks like .. but I am not an expert. I just like the form of this.
3-digit slashdot ID's notwithstanding, I hope we see a revival of cute little cottage-/hobby sites like this, or a kind of perpetually simple cache of folks who just render their genius to static files, in cute ways, and leave it at that... over and over for a few years.
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In general, how would someone go about this? Is it just something that should happen over time or is there a method/goal to strive for?
Learn more apis, dig in to implementation, read other people's code, ...
There's a big difference between engineers who consistently, proactively study and learn vs those who just leverage previous knowledge.
And I've experienced both sides of that in myself.
I wrote about something related recently.
"I am not your Cloud person": https://renegadeotter.com/2023/07/26/i-am-not-your-cloud-per...
Basically just dig in beyond “it works”. You’d be surprised how many devs never read a tool’s docs if they don’t absolutely have to.
I’ve found that solving tricky problems ( horrible network related issue, performance bugs, strange behaviour of program/framework/os, someone you know deciding to use new tech you don’t know about etc ) is usually a good way of finding a topic to explore.
Find someone who’s interested in actively learning things, it makes things a lot more pleasant, and it’s easier to remain motivated. You don’t have to learn the same things - just share the fun stuff you’re learning.
Finally, and most importantly : it’s ok if you’re not learning as quickly as when you were at university. It’s not a competition. You have a full time job, don’t have a lot of time, so just make sure that you enjoy learning, so that you keep doing it !
To me, engineers receive specs from management and implement solutions that meet those specs. And that's it.
I suppose my personal experience must not be how things work elsewhere! Kind of fascinating, and it makes me wonder if people enjoy all this extra responsibility and how things go when engineers disagree with management.
You get the picture. Yes lead developers exist, but they only have so much time to do little battles and they're busy making sure the big things are arguing correctly. Senior engineers should be able to talk to design about a redesign necessary because iOS just isn't capable of this it turns out or the cool effect you saw is only available on a version we don't use and can't update to right because complex reason.
If you're just taking your requirements and working without having to negotiate with another person, you're probably not doing senior work.
Some of it I the site I don't think is senior work really unless you're a tiny shop, but they're not weird since these are all skills a for senior adjacent roles that any senior might be called on to take randomly. It's not uncommon in many shops for leads to be a spontaneous and temporary role for some project that disappears on major release.
My experience has been an issue is raised - usually by management or "the business", but sometimes by engineering. "Our website is too slow!". Now someone has to step up and clarify things. Like: * what does "fast" even mean for our website? It would be great to have an objective metric. * Is there such a thing as "fast enough"? * How much time / effort / money is a given improvement worth? * How do we prioritize this vs. everything else we could be working on?
A project spec comes out of those discussions, but the discussions themselves have significant technical and business inputs.
I don't view taking part in these discussions as "extra" responsibility, I view it as a core part of the job. I've also seen what happens when specs are written without technical input: it makes implementing them a lot less pleasant.
Then managers should learn whatever it takes to be able to make these types of decisions. There seems to be a double standard where engineers have to do all of these non-engineering tasks, meanwhile non-engineers never have to learn the systems in depth.
I think programming is a hard enough job that warrants 90% of focus, at least to be able to reap the benefits of computer science. At the dawn of generative AI, we can clearly see software has no limits, yet limits are implicitly imposed by re-prioritizing an engineer's time with "soft skill" tasks and having them spend a huge amount of time thinking about things that have little to do with computer science.
If a business needs that specific intersection of skillset, perhaps it should be a new role, instead of stretching the role of engineering and missing the opportunity to innovate at the software level, which in the end would help the business anyway.
My first internship, a long time ago, was making HTML websites manually. At the time JS was still young and was not widespread, but I still wrote a custom content management system that would write HTML for me... when I presented this to the people in charge, there was no interest. They didn't care I could do the work faster. They had clients, which payed them by job and not by time. This is just one example of many I experienced of how businesses are blind to how much programmers could add value to their company by simply optimizing their expertise of software engineering. Software engineers are boxed into roles where they are unable to focus on engineering only, and as a result they never achieve the technical level that will allow for domain specific innovations.
So no, engineers don't really have a limit on productivity (granted there is a cost), given that you can write code to write code. There really is no limit, we just have to look at AI.
And that alone occupies most of my (working/free) time. Not sure how I'm supposed to keep up with the rest of the list. To know technologies is one thing, to have deep tech expertise in many technologies is a completely different one.
Especially when reviewing code, you often see how things can be done more simply, and asking "why" to the reviewee can sometimes backfire because of touching a sore point.
Thinking about it, not only when reviewing code. Also, when you question the used processes you often bump into "we found out from experience this works best" or "why change a working process". So always using the "why" tactic can be frustrating at times.
I was often able to reduce the scope and cost of parts of projects by pestering the domain experts who wanted something to explain why they wanted it. I often discovered that they believed that what they really wanted was impossible or too difficult so they had pre-emptively asked for the second best. Once I understood what they really needed I could tell give them a proper estimate of the cost of solving the actual problem.
In some cases I was able to automate away the job that they had asked me to merely provide a better user interface for for and do that with less effort and cost.
The domain expert (our internal customer) has a badly specified procedure for picking the correct configuration for some sub-assembly. It depends on a number of different parameters some of which are continuous variables and some are discrete. Which continuous variables are relevant depends on which combination of the discrete values are chosen; for instance choosing nominally equivalent parts from different suppliers can mean having to express the specification in different terms. So the customer asks for a user interface that will make it easier for the end user (not the domain expert, a less qualified person) to explore the database and a few simple tools to do some calculations so that they can decide which parts to order.
While writing up my proposed solution I realize that a lot of what the domain expert has expressed as matters of fine professional judgement look suspiciously like they are in fact rule bound from the point of view of the actual end user. When I quiz the domain expert about this they tell me that they though that the task was too complicated to automate. When I finally extract from them the actual rules I see that the actual end user has no real freedom of choice, that the rules change about once a decade, and that all that is requires is a small form to gather the two pieces of information that are not already in the system and a fairly small set of database queries. All the rules can be encoded easily in a couple of small database tables that the domain expert can update when the conditions change.
I point out that this is actually less work, can be delivered sooner, and is most likely more reliable. The domain expert agrees and we are both happy.
Over the decades that I spent writing applications I frequently found that customers failed to ask for what they really wanted because of mistaken beliefs about the relative difficulty of various kinds of computing tasks. Instead of asking for what they needed they asked for what they thought we could provide. This frequently caused more delay than if they had simply asked for the best solution from their point of view.
Often the customer asks for what they want rather than what they need. Very often what they want is rooted in solutions or partial solutions that they have seen or implemented themselves. They think that they simply need a better version of their own home grown tool when in fact their tool is the way it is simply because of the limitations of the tools they had to hand, usually Excel programmed by someone doing it instead of the engineering that they are actually competent in. Using the appropriate solution, often an SQL database and a very simple front end, simplifies the task dramatically and makes the tool both easier to use and much simpler to maintain.
Once you start seeing it, you’ll noticed that it happens all the time!
I worked at a MAANG where this was not the case. The pecking order of "seniority" was who was the most "right" and who could poke the most holes in everyone else's ideas while denying others' contributions while bragging about how essential and important their work was in a semi-agro manner that discouraged dissent and curiosity.
In my view, marks of intelligence include lacking strong biases, comfort with ambiguity, be willing to propose hypotheses, experiment, gather data, and be proven wrong.
Applies only to commercial organisations (and no, even with those money is not the be-all and end-all) so not impressive as a number one, at least with that wording. Understanding business is clearly key though.
TBH that and the rather self-satisfied "it is useful to any software engineer, it is especially useful to senior engineers." on a rather enigmatic website lacking in other interesting writing put me off considering it further.
- Every level balances between execution and communication.
- Many companies fail due to not scoping and not collaborating enough.
- Any engineer should follow good practices but prioritize creativity over processes whenever they want to thrive.
- Tech is a creative industry. Scrum and other overhead processes have not led to a productivity increase.
Become a Senior Engineer. Just not only in theory.
Show HN: A Senior Engineer's CheckList - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20914236 - Sept 2019 (143 comments)
(that shouldn't have been a Show HN! too late now)
Did the author spend time at Amazon?