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> Excuse my French, but audio recordings, holy shit.

People carry phones in their pockets equipped with mics and running operating systems that have secret source code. If you think the mic can never turn on without you knowing you are in for a big surprise.

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To my knowledge though this has never been proven. Yes, the base band can in theory access this stuff, and the OS could do so stealthily I suppose -- but this is Subaru SAYING they are doing it every time you get in the car for no really good reason.

It's in a totally different class.

If the hardware and software allows it its not science fiction that it will be used in that way one day if its not already the case. And of course it works better if you dont tell people about it unlike Subaru

There is a difference that the intended use is to actively monitor you. Intent is very important!

The companies selling those phone swear they are not listening to everything you say.

Whether you believe them or not, it's a completely different situation from reserving the right to record everything and sell the recordings to whoever they want.

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