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Because this is in America.

And in America we earn our keep. Life is not fair, if someone's willing to work for less, you simply show up and do a better job and demand a better salary. Entitlement is not America, it's communism

Life isn't fair, but we could do a lot better than imposing even more unfairness. Sexual harrassment and sexism, LGBT discrimination, racism, nepotism, etc. We're not quite living in a meritocracy.

I know you're joking but some people actually think that way and it's so disgusting. No borders no nations no walls

I am not joking. Countries are made to protect their citizens first.

Where's the joke? The purpose of any government ought to be to benefit its citizens. Certainly there's a moral obligation to not unduly wrong others in the course of that pursuit, but it is contrary to the mission of a government to benefit foreigners at the expense of its own population.

The purpose of government is to provide social goods to everyone who agreed to give up some freedoms to be part of that government.

Non citizens have equal right to feed their families, and anyone who has agreed to the social contract has equal rights to the social services the government has agreed to provide, regardless of citizenship.

replace the word "citizen" with "consenter" to understand where the mistake is in your argument.

Do you have walls and doors in your house?

Idiotic argument, nobody's house is 3.7 million sq miles, nor do 350 million people live in anybody's "house".

So it's inconvenient for you to open your house to anyone?

If my house were like a country, it would be quite convenient and I would indeed open my home to everyone willing to participate in my social contract.

But my home isn’t in any way like a country, so this question isn’t meaningful.

So your logic doesn't apply for your home, for your neighborhood or your city? Does it hold for you state or do you need to become completely independent country?

Huh? My home isn’t a commons and requires no management of a shared resource.

You need a bureaucracy once you have a shared resource, and at that point no one is entitled to the resource more than anyone else.

You don't share it with your wife or kids, roommates,...?

The people who share ownership are entitled to the resource and can decide how someone can join.

The land your home is built on is part of a shared resource: the space available for the community.

If we apply your logic there s nothing wrong with immigrants showing up and colonizing natives - be it in America, Australia, etc - shared resource bro!

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