> it's the people with options to work somewhere better who are leaving.
As well as the people who aren't pulling their weight and who know that they'll be found out back in the office.
As well as the people who aren't pulling their weight and who know that they'll be found out back in the office.
The people in the office have a farrrr easier time relying on non-work to look good. They can have conversations, build relationships, etc very naturally. They look like they're working so it's just easier for them not to. I can sit at my desk all day reading HN and I look like I'm working, people will assume I must be. If I'm sitting at home all day reading HN, not so much, I'd better have something to show that I got something done.
Worked with someone really good at this. She'd walk the halls in the office with a very serious, determined look on her face, always with laptop in hand. Always drifting past where the Directors and VPs sat. Always striking up conversations with people above her on the totem pole (never, ever being seen talking to a lowly worker bee). Always visibly demonstrating vague "bustle" and "activity." A naive manager would observe her behavior and think to himself "Ahh, yes, the buzz of Business™ Being Done". People like this see their careers absolutely THRIVE in the office, and are desperate for RTO.
Both sides of the argument are simultaneously flawed though because we don’t account for one thing: most people work in a mass surveillance environment since everything is connected to the cloud. We know who submitted what, when, and from where. Not to mention telemetry will get better and better. It doesn’t really matter if you work remotely or in office.
Also most sane places have hybrid schedules. I suspect the companies that are forcing RTO are really looking to do a soft layoff.
Those that lack that confidence, wait. No point in skipping paychecks and giving up on possible severance when you feel you’re bad.
But believe what you want of course.
... and just how is this supposed to happen? Don't those people have deadlines? Deliverables? Or did we invent a sensor that requires one's butt to be sitting at the office?
Unless you're the kind of micro-manager who records mouse movements per minute, demands webcams always be on, or duplicates employees work just in case they missed something.
Obviously for other sorts of work, the same behaviour can be much more detectable.
In my experience, anti RTO folks are stacked to 1 actually good employe to about 5 slackers.
I work with a few remote folks today. They are always out of to loop, late to deliver and somehow always have a reason to not be at meetings.
The worst of them before the pandemic were the ones that showed up at 11:30 ate free lunch and was out by 1:30.
While there are genuinely good employees who don’t want RTO, it’s the ones who yell about it the most who are poor performers.
You work with bad folks, period. I have seen none of that.
Slackers will still slack off. Maybe it's just you can't tell when you're in the office - that's all.
So this is what they were doing with in office work and you think remote work is the issue?