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For a new iPhone user are there alternatives to using iMessage for texts to avoid this?

You can disable iMessage and the Messages app will then just send SMS. Or you can install Signal or WhatsApp or whatever

Don’t use SMS instead of iMessage though. Then all your texts will be sent across the network without any kind of decent encryption. And WhatsApp is almost unusable unless you consent to uploading all your contacts to Facebook. (IIRC this was the red line that got crossed that caused the WhatsApp founder to quit FB post-acquisition.)

Signal is a good recommendation, but you won’t be able to convince 100% of people you need to interact with over text to use Signal. You might convince friends and family, but not acquaintances or random people who might need to text with (like your electrician etc.)

Given the tradeoffs, iMessage is pretty good for day-to-day messaging.

It's a tradeoff. Do you want messages from strangers to run through a bunch of parsers that historically had problems, or do you want to take advantage of your peer group using iMessage.

I'm outside the US, so I don't even need to consider. Nobody here uses iMessage, even the people with iPhones.

> And WhatsApp is almost unusable unless you consent to uploading all your contacts to Facebook.

What? How-so? I've never allowed it to do that and it works fine for me, across iOS/Mac/Windows.

It works but it shows phone numbers rather than contact names and you can’t assign a name to a number without giving access to your entire contacts … it ticks me off.

Ah right, fair enough.

You see userpics though. Works for me...

Contact scoping on grapheneos solves that.

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