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Still not open-source it looks like [2]. I'm not willing to create an account right now. Can someone who has an account post what the pricing looks like if any? I'd also be curious what other agreements you have to make other than the terms of service[1] you agree to when making an account.

[1] https://modular.com/terms [2] https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5823e1d9d176916c236c5...

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Python is slow, but it's not "invest time building software with a closed source language from a new company" slow.

Yeah, and I assume in the future Python will get its own JIT or AOT compiler, if people really demand it. Most Python for scientific programming is just a higher level glue code for the C++ underneath.

Python already has JIT compilers (PyPy and Numba).

I really do wonder who they're targeting as a paying customer. What dev/team is all of these things

1. Getting paid to work on ML to such an extent that perf is important (enough)

2. Comfortable leaving the warm confines of python and a huge ecosystem

3. Willing to learn a brand new, closed source, beta maturity language

4. Does inference on CPU

5. Willing to run their inference pipeline behind some FaaS layer because that's how I'm assuming modular plans to make money? The alternative is an honest to goodness licensed compiler and that seems even more farfetched (though I guess not beyond the realm of possibility).

What I wouldn't give to be in the room when they're pitching VCs because they've managed to raise a lot of money for what looks like a TAM of like 5 people.

It seems like they're targeting AI chip start ups with the promise of a compiler framework that can integrate with a custom backend

that doesn't jive at all with "closed source" and "walled garden" and "remote sdk".

I'm not willing to make an account either, I'm too scared what Modular will do with my data for privacy reasons, especially seeing that giant Google sign in button.

Hopefully, someone will and sign up so that we know Modular intends to do with our data once they collect it.

I bit the bullet. After singing in via google, its just a page with instructions on installing the Mojo SDK. Nothing about pricing but on their FAQ section they do talk about the telemetry data they collect and how to disable it

https://docs.modular.com/mojo/faq.html#does-the-mojo-sdk-col...

With all due respect - scared of what? I'm genuinely curious what you're worried about. Can you give me some real world examples of a possible negative repercussion from signing up? I haven't signed up. I don't have an account, just been a curious lurker for the Mojo thing over the past couple of months.

Hi, thanks for your interest! You can opt out of telemetry if you like. Please see the FAQ here: https://docs.modular.com/mojo/faq.html#does-the-mojo-sdk-col...

For open sourcing, we also have a section in our FAQ: https://docs.modular.com/mojo/faq.html#open-source, and we answered a question about that in the latest livestream! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQh9es5gfpo

For the question on pricing, the Mojo SDK is free to use.

Disclaimer: I work for Modular

Soo maybe some "core" "parts" might be open sourced some time. Hard pass.

0:16 from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQh9es5gfpo, says "we'll be open sourcing documentation"... by the end of the year. Documentation? It will have taken a full year to open source documentation. Congrats.

That's disingenuous. They are also open sourcing the standard library by the end of the year.

Make your own account. And pricing? What are you talking about?

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