Every internet meme gets more and more extreme.

I think you misread my post, or misread the study. Whole grains are some of the healthiest foods you can eat, especially when it comes to reducing your risk of T2DM, while the person I was replying to implied the opposite:

> Thirteen studies with 29,633 T2D cases were included in the high vs. low intake meta-analysis (overall intake range: 0–302 g/day). Comparing extreme categories, a strong inverse association between T2D and whole grain intake was observed (RR: 0.77; 95% CI 0.71–0.84, I2 = 86%) (Supplementary Figure S1). Each additional daily 30 g of whole grains was inversely associated with T2D risk (RR: 0.87; 95% CI 0.82–0.93, I2 = 91%, n = 12 studies) (Supplementary Figure S2). The inverse associations and heterogeneity persisted in additional analyses stratified by sex, age, follow-up length, geographic location, number of cases, dietary assessment, and outcome assessment (Supplementary Table S14). Evidence of heterogeneity between subgroups in stratified analyses was observed for geographic location, dietary assessment method, and outcome assessment. There was significant evidence for small study effects in the high versus low meta-analysis, but not in the dose–response meta-analysis. Visual inspection of the funnel plot suggests that small studies showing positive association may be missing (Supplementary Figure S25). There was evidence of a non-linear dose–response association; the risk of T2D decreased by 25% with increasing intake of whole grains up to ~50 g/day. Small benefits for increasing intake above this value were observed (Fig. 2).

Where's the evidence? I linked to a study, one that isn't confounded by weight-loss (unlike the studies you people like to cite) demonstrating that as the fat (especially saturated fat) content of the diet increased to an absurd degree (55%!), insulin sensitivity tanked. Why would insulin sensitivity, when measured by an Oral Glucose Tolerance Test, suddenly improve if you restricted carbohydrate even further? Yeah, at some point your intake will be so low that you can "game" an HbA1c or fasting BG test, but underlying insulin sensitivity will be trash (which an OGTT would show), unless maybe you lose enough bodyfat to offset it.

Why do so many people on keto develop "physiological insulin resistance?" Why does all of the epidemiological evidence show strong inverse correlations between low-fat carbohydrate consumption (like whole grains and fruits) and T2DM, but the reverse for high-fat "carbs" like cookies or pizza?

The most reasonable interpretation of the data right now is that high-fat diets make you less insulin sensitive.

It's worse than simply making it easier to consume large quantities of fruit. Even if you consume only the same amount of fruit as you would be willing to eat unprocessed juicing it makes the sugars more available so that you over consume even without appearing to consume a lot.

The thing is, most of the pulp stays in the juicing machine regardless. Thats why you don't drink solid apple, just juice from it. So I eat those fruits, but oranges almost never, apples more so. Vegetables are so much healthier, a good bio carrot is my friend #1 also due to better processing of sunshine in the skin.

You can teach yourself almost anything with a smidge of discipline, but its much easier if your parents just dont fuck up your upbringing and don't make this and other junkfood into some idiotic rewards (or just don't care at all), so you just continue that trend into adulthood.