NYPD using drones to check out noisy backyard parties over Labor Day weekend
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Begs a bigger question about property ownership and airspace. How high off the land you own is yours? Is flying a drone over a fence the same as climbing a fence for the officer?
I’m all for using technology when proper guardrails are in place to prevent misuse
Either way, you don't need to be above a property to spy on it from the air, although I seriously doubt that type of restraint would be exercised by NYPD. A motivated lawyer might be able to get damages for unlawful search - but you'd be venturing into an area, er, volume where there is probably no precedent.
Edit/addition: Thoughts of that aside, I am fundamentally okay with the idea of police orgs using drones for something like this. Conceptually. I see this as a preferred outcome to "Annoying bitchy neighbor whines about totally legal backyard party, event #8962376340" where an officer has to physically go to the party, it's some level of disruptive, it wastes the officer's time, it wastes the partygoers' time... As long as the police are willing to provide an itemized list of every drone deployed, available publicly, with exact GPS pathing on an easily-viewed map.
https://www.silive.com/news/2023/08/wire-creator-david-simon...
How else are speeding cameras supposed to work? They already include some tolerance for imprecise sensors, as does every car's tachymeter.
For every finite actually-enforced speed limit, there's always going to be some discrete value limit for "too fast", and always somebody upset with getting a ticket for being just ever so slightly above that limit.
Your city government gets a bit more funding. Avoidance of the fine is very easy - just stick to the speed limit. It’s especially nice for people who don’t drive.
But the impact of speed cameras is well understood - it does lead to people slowing down. And it turns out speed is incredibly important, even small differences in speed, in the outcome of a car crash.
https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-sho...
Remember during lockdowns they didn’t want large crowds for fear of super spreading events? I know we’re not in lockdown but wondering if the drones have some new tech on them to a) determine party sizes, and b) determine if masks are being worn.
What better way to train a new AI drone system for crowd gatherings and masking use than Labor Day weekend.
Far fetched yes, but we live in weird times where that theory isn’t too far off of the world we live in.
Blunt instruments like guns and tear gas are the least dangerous parts of tyranny.
Ignoring misinformation and hate speech, what will happen when employment contracts or terms of use start to further limit our behavior? While it has a good record on free speech, the US has a disturbing trend of treating contracts as sacrosanct.
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Nah.
If course, "use" is doing a lot of lifting here. The questions are if this goes further and turns into "abuse.