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They did, though they really shouldn't need to

If an autonomous driving car is taken over by a hacker, and starts running people over, how fast would you expect the police to block it/shoot its tires?

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This is a poor analogy. Most of the infected computers that the FBI accessed aren’t even located in the US. The FBI has no jurisdiction in those countries.

Correct, which is why the warrant was limited to computers in the United States (I don't know how they went about this in practice).

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-08/23mj4244_warrant_redacted...

To go back to the car analogy this is like the police getting approval to shoot the tires and then closing their eyes when they pull the trigger.

They said they retrieved IP addresses and "routing information", doing fine grained geo ip lookups is impossible, but the accuracy of country of origin is very high, especially in the US

> geo ip lookups is impossible

impossible is the wrong word here, its just unnecessary. The Feds can (and do) definitely contact domestic & international ISPs to perform near 100% accurate lookups.

Right the municipal police would be the authority to do that, not the FBI

do you have a better analogy thats not an appeal to authority? we’re not in grade school anymore and so not every authority is deputized for every thing

If AI vehicles don’t have a kill switch they should be sued into oblivion.

This kind of thinking only works when you can trust the folks who have access to that switch.

The manufacturer?

Edit: doesn’t Ford and others with the constant connectivity already have something like this?

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