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Insurance companies get these information from more direct sources. For example how you drive your car is sourced straight from the car manufacturers. And they pay big time for it. I can confirm this at least for one large automotive company that I cannot mention because of legal reasons, but they were founded by one infamous failed artist.

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>For example how you drive your car is sourced straight from the car manufacturers.

This is why I do not, and never will, own a car with telemetry capabilities. I'm happy with my old dumb car. No smart crap for me.

That type of car in 20 years will become as rare as one without OBD, sadly

And also unusable if you live in a bigger city. Many of those are pushing to ban old cars due to pollution and noise regulations.

Noise regulations?

Yeah, my ancient 4 cylinder hybrid Prius absolutely rips, sounds like a total monster /s

Doesn't mean they should be allowed to. Or that your car should even be sending that data without your explicit consent.

The upcoming Euro 6 standard requires the car manufacturer to collect all data related to emissions. The current wording is so wide that it could also include things like if you have a heater on or how loud is your music because all of those systems consume energy and contribute to the emissions.

One can only imagine what is hiding behind these regulations.

Also, I'm aware that some car manufacturers are planning to pay users for their consent to collect more data about them from the car. However it's supposed to be a one time payment not worth more than a full tank.

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