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The Mediterranean diet works

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56 pointsBrajeshwar32 comments

Judging by the picture (since that's all I can see) the mediterranean diet consists of bread, filled pastries, fritters, and dairy-based sauces.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a-practical-guide-to-the...

The way I remember it is:

For fats, Olive oil

For snacks, nuts

For calories, whole grains

For fiber, salads

For minerals, Veggies

For protein, Legumes

For protein, Fish poultry

For drinks, Wine and Water

For desert, Fruit

Regarding fruit, I believe that article is saying fruit can be eaten regularly with every meal. You can eat it during the meal or afterward as a "dessert." Foods with added sugars should not be eaten daily but can be enjoyed a couple times a week or less.

Added sugar every day, makes a boring life okay. It's nbd dude, just don't get fat.

Yep, many dishes like salads can include fruit. Extra tasty! But personally I don't eat fruit as a first dish. Sometimes inter-meals yes.

So basically, the same but with no red meat

It was originally a mix of dairy, red wine, bread, olives or olive oil, a little of meat and a lot of sea food, plus sun and exercise.

Wrapping all the food in yummy plastic lames was not an option those days

People living more time in the climate that we evolved and feel comfortable is hardly a surprise

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I can never see these archive links. Caught in captcha loop always. Usually on mobile too so I have no idea what my dns is.

Whats with the Captcha loops lately?

Any solution to this?

Happens to me in desktop Chrome and Safari iOS.

Seems Cloudflare-related, though it's been persistent for weeks, going on a month:

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After reading this post and the comments, I went out and got some falafel for lunch.

I wonder how mass-produced frozen falafel you find in every salad bar in the US compares to the Mediterranean diet. I suspect that the venn diagrams do not overlap.

> falafel you find in every salad bar in the US

Off-topic, but I have never seen falafel in a salad bar in the US. Where are you finding these buffet falafel?

Been following it for years and recommend it! https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/04/health/mediterranean-diet...

> The core foods include whole grains, fruits, vegetables, beans, legumes, nuts, seeds, herbs, spices, and healthy fats such as extra virgin olive oil.

> Moderate amounts of lean proteins (such as fish, seafood, and poultry) are encouraged, as are eggs, dairy products such as yogurt, and wine (red wine, in particular, with meals). By contrast, red meats and sweets are meant to be consumed less often.

> Over time, this healthy eating pattern came to be known as the Mediterranean diet.

And, if you're LDL is high or you're on statins to counteract that, then you should definitely stay away from the full fat dairy as well as the eggs.

I thought that the most recent consensus on cholesterol was that dietary cholesterol plays a minuscule role compared to what our own livers produce and that the additional nutritional value of eggs outweigh the cholesterol concerns.

Yes, that's what I'd read somewhere.

It's not consuming cholesterol that's the issue, it's the production.

As a totally Bro-Science comparison, eating Fat doesn't translate directly to more Body Fat. ;-)

Fwiw, eggs and the butter you put on them also contain saturated fat.

But meta analyses don’t seem look good for eggs. First google result is a meta to find an egg dose response on CVD and diabetes: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00219...

I can imagine there are people with such poor diets that they won’t substitute eggs with anything worth a damn but that’s different than eggs or any other food being worth the worse health outcomes for nutrients you can get elsewhere.

Aside, here’s a tofu scramble recipe that tastes eggy (thanks to black salt) but better than scrambled eggs. It’s insanely good: https://youtu.be/Vc5pZ-PY-H8 - I eat it every morning it’s so tasty and my girlfriend prefers it over eggs.

Tangent: For paywalled articles, I wish you could sometimes just buy a view of a single article for a small price (pennies). I do not wish to create an account and subscribe to NG, but I also recognize that journalism costs something so I do not want to steal...

As for the Mediterranean diet. I practice a modified version, and I really do feel much better than when I'm eating food that has been processed to hell.

This would be so easy with the Lightning Network. In general payments are just better. No need to input your personal info No need to give away you CC

Just scan a QR code and you are good to go.

Whoever cracks this problem will single-handedy restore the entire news industry.

PPV is pretty old concept, but it just gets wrecked by ad supported free content. Which is basically what you described but with unlimited access and higher upside no?

The content has to be genuinely very unique to be worth ppv, i.e a boxing match. I'd be very annoyed to ppv a listicle.

Thanks.

Why are paywalled posts left or even allowed on HN? I'm sure there are other sources of this exact content. I have nothing against paywalling unique content, just don't expect me to buy a subscription just to blab about it here.

“Paywalled” isn’t black and white. In this case, the article doesn’t seem to be paywalled when accessed from outside the US, and from within the US reader mode also works. In other cases you may have a limited number of article views free per month. In that case, one can clear cookies/local storage to reset, or use a private browser window/tab.

HN has promoted stories just like all other big corporate media sites. You can usually see them languishing in the list with very few comments, people are great at identifying and skipping inline ads disguised as legitimate content. Every single day there are at least a dozen of these stories here.

National Geographic is owned by Disney, news-tainment with a social mission.

No doubt plenty of publications are trying to promote their content on HN, but it's our job (the mods, the software, and the community) to make that not happen, except when the articles are genuinely interesting, in which case they belong here.

I think Brajeshwar is a legit HN user and not a stealth agent for Disney.

If there's a workaround, it's ok. Users usually post workarounds in the thread.

This is in the FAQ at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html and there's more explanation here:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37341479.

The usual workaround, as I've discussed with you in comments and via email, is far less tractable and has been for weeks:

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