Designers say only way to fix Tesla Cybertruck is to start over
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The guy from the LegitStreetCars youtube channel just bought one and he mentioned that if there is dents and dings it's really really hard to correct them, so when you're looking for a barn find DeLorean one of the most important things is the body is in good shape.
Seems like similar issues would be present in the cybertruck?
Edit: Quick google search turned up this article: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-stainle...
(Pretty interesting watch if you're into cars re: DeLorean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcrVF8sR8k)
Most Normal trucks can do the other 2. It's not a truck.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz...
An actual work truck would look like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/00_hyund...
Or you could just rent a mule ;-)
Somewhat ironically, they're as big as they are because of the libs ... or at least because of Obama's modifications to the standards regulating vehicles through the use of the CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) program.
The TLDR is that fuel economy standards are now based on the footprint of a vehicle, which was designed to encourage the production of more, smaller vehicles overall, but which resulted in the unintended consequences of it being easier to make the truck bigger than to make it more fuel efficient.
Folks were warning that the standards would likely result in American cars getting "between 2 and 32 percent bigger[1]" years before, but it seems those warnings went unheeded.
[1] - https://me.engin.umich.edu/news-events/news/cafe-standards-c...
This is similar to how boats get bigger in every dimension as they grow in length -- you don't just make a boat longer without also scaling up its width and cabin volumes.
[1] SUVs and pickups are both classified as "light trucks", which are more profitable due to weaker regulations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_truck#United_States
They haven't been able to redesign or even facelift the 11 year old Model S. You may be right, but it'll be a while.
They’re practically not the same vehicles anymore.
The Cybertruck will sell well because it’s a status symbol for its demographic.
I've seen some concepts with glass covers for the bed. That makes it more like the crossover SUVs. If they do something like that then I can see it.
It’s possible to get one, but it didn’t sound like an easy process. They had to find a needle in a haystack at their dealership.
The real question is whether any of the imperfections will stop buyers. I personally don’t think it will. The kind of person who wants a Cybertruck has their mind made up.
People buy rustic chic gear all the time.
I also think that it wouldn’t be that hard for Tesla to make a non-stainless version in the future. Maybe I’m naive about the manufacturing process but I don’t think that would constitute “starting over.”
Or you can just get a vinyl wrap, which barely costs more than a typical paint upgrade.
Or do you think it's like the other kind of lucrative video game, that was made very cheaply and is continuously delivered very slowly over time, usually for free, monetizing a very small number of very strange people?
A flawed vehicle is neither of these. It is really expensive to make, and must recoup its costs over a very long period of time, where the 100,000th buyer will have all the wisdom from the previous 99,999 buyers.
It’s not like the biggest selling trucks are known for build quality. It’s Ford, GM, and Dodge we are talking about here.
Hell, Tesla’s existing lineup’s build quality is a running joke, that hasn’t stopped them from selling a lot of vehicles.
The article is bringing up a legitimate issue but I just don’t think it will matter for sales. The cyberbro demographic cares about panel gaps as much as the typical Escalade buyer.
The electric truck market in this price range is basically just the F-150, and while we don’t know the Cybertruck’s price, I think it’s going to launch in a way that is very cognizant of the street price of the F-150 and well below the Rivian R1T.
The eye is quite good at spotting straight lines, so a tiny difference will be obvious immediately. On a more "normally" shaped car there are curves and sweeps and things that change radius and direction as they move down the car, and other straight things like window sills etc are broken up by door pillars etc) so it is harder for the eye to ntice when things are 2mm out front-to-back.
Using a curved panel gives you a little margin to move small problems to the top or bottom of the panel. A curve next to a curve doesn't give a strong visual cue for lateral offset, but a sharp angle next to a sharp angle does. This is also why a very slight orange peel texture in paint is not always a bad thing.
The uniqueness was a driving force in getting the concept of hybrids to be more accepted, since at the time the whole concept of any type of electric vehicle was completely foreign, and seeing these unique things on the road actually helped them to be accepted.
Time will tell whether it can do the job, assuming we ever see one. But there's no reason to think that only current trucks can ever do that job.
Just because Elon Musk is enthusiastic about something doesn't make it a good idea.
I.e. they technically classed as agricultural vehicles or something, so like you wouldn't expect a combine harvester to be particularly nice to pedestrians or other road users either, these large vehicles are treated the same in the eyes of the law?
Next thing you know, you'll tell me that dentists like to find cavities. Or that scorpions like to sting frogs.
Awful little vehicles. Used to burst into flames overnight an unattended without even the excuse of charging a battery. Always figured that they were self-immolating from shame.