FDA approves multiple generics of ADHD and BED treatment Vyvanse
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That'll work greeeeat.
Then again if I remember correctly, Vyvanse isn't something you can get a continual high from like traditional amphetamines. : I may be completely mis-renembering that.
Contrary to popular belief, giving stimulants significantly reduces the risks of addiction, alcoholism, substance abuse, etc.
You have to treat people, otherwise they try to get their dopamine sonewhere else. Whether that's binge eating, or worse.
Your point is very interesting though. It sounds pretty obvious but I never thought about this this way. I am going to look some proofs up and steal this for future arguments.
That said, the nonstimulant ADHD meds all have worse side effects and can't be discontinued without tapering.
Vyvanse does, but it's not a problem, just take a magnesium supplement if it happens.
Natto is a good source of vitamin K though, if you want stronger bones.
Heck, I've had more problems weaning myself off of diclofenac.
Sure, when I stop I feel kinda crappy... But... I'm not on a stimulant that I had been on. I'm just not as 'up'. Not as focused. Etc. Never any actual withdrawals or cravings for either though. Gets very tiring how many people that probably never have regularly used either like to pull out their megaphones and yell about how they are addictive.
Why don't we worry about ultra processed foods, high sugar intake... Things like that that are actually a problem for a LOT of people? People focus on the oddest things.
For those that aren't already addicted to something, say those with adhd, I wonder to what extent their environment is causing the issues that they seek to solve with a stimulant.
I don't think this is caused by my environment. Feeling like you are unable to think a clear thought is not because clear thoughts conform with modern society's ideas of a highly productive an obedient individual. For me it's simply a feeling of not being a whole human. Medication addresses this to a very significant degree, although it's by no means a complete fix.
I also use glasses, and I find similarities there. Without them my eyesight is blurry and I cannot see things beyond a very short distance. Are glasses simply producing normative behavior that conforms with modern society's idea of a highly productive and obedient individual? Is it really the environment that is causing me to think of bad eyesight as an issue to be addressed? Obviously not; being able to see clearly is something you want regardless of environment. I think that the same applies to being able to think clearly.
Everyone I knew in uni was on Adderall XR and some people overdid it, like making these crazy manic posts on Facebook and staying cracked out for days on a train of big redoses. There are real risks.
And because of that, any time I go to a new doctor, I have to deal with them side eyeing me as I try to prove to them I’m not just a pill seeking junkie even though I’ve been taking it for 15 years. It can be so dehumanizing, like I’m a child of a parent that goes to see if I really did clean my room like I said I did.
Thankfully a decade later and I'm in the latter, typically don't take my full dose so I always have some left come next refill.
So you can abuse it the same way. It just lasts longer.
The continual high you can get on a large dose is the same, just less peaky.
> Giving an addictive stimulant to food addicts
Yeah, amphetamine has so many effects beyond appetite suppression that it’s a pretty blunt instrument for that. GLP1 agonists like Ozempic seem far more promising since they don’t have the ability to crack you out.