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> And Cloudflare are nearly as well behaved as they could possibly be.

This is not true. There has been at least two high profile cases where Cloudflare dropped their commitment to free speech when under no real legal pressure(kiwifarms and stormfromt). Maybe you think they did the right thing, but it's clear that they are not a neutral party.

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It’s clear that it’s only an action they take if there is enough immense pressure from everyone who’s not that site.

So while Cloudflare isn’t a diamond in the rough, you could say they’re a.. topaz in the rough.

The more social pressure there is, the more meaningful the commitment is. Cloudflare doesn't get points for hosting sites that no cares about. They failed to uphold their promise when it mattered twice, so it's pretty much meaningless. Just use AWS for your DDoS protection at that point.

But Amazon dropped Gab for even flimsier reasons

And yet they're the ISP of choice for the culture war propagandists. The Daily Wire and their german impersonator offspring NIUS both run on AWS. Turning Point USA runs on it, despite inviting a speaker to talk about the dangers of woke AWS censorship.

Kiwifarms is not just a site about "opinions", they organize destroying people's lives and celebrating when someone kills themselves.

There's a clear moral distinction between "I believe trans women do not belong in women's bathrooms" and "Here's their address, do your thing until they are gone!".

Celebrating when someone kills themselves is a matter of opinion. Doxxing is another matter.

They also dropped the Daily Stormer from what I remember.

You're right, I mixed the two sites up.

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