As a psychiatrist, I diagnose mental illness, and help spot demonic possession (2016)
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That a person who is a self-styled "witch" and "queen of satan" has a big incentive to learn latin and deny that she ever did. Just a few phrases would probably suffice. BTW how good is your latin that you can judge "perfect one" from "passable"?
> He or she might demonstrate “hidden knowledge” of all sorts of things — like how a stranger’s loved ones died, what secret sins she has committed, even where people are at a given moment. These are skills that cannot be explained except by special psychic or preternatural ability
Or, you know, cold reading.
> I have not witnessed a levitation myself, but half a dozen people I work with vow that they’ve seen it in the course of their exorcisms
Yeah, must be true then. Most likely explanation.
> One cannot force these creatures to undergo lab studies or submit to scientific manipulation; they will also hardly allow themselves to be easily recorded by video equipment, as skeptics sometimes demand.
Convenient, isn't it? On the other hand they don't care that you see them and write your book about them. They are only camera-shy.
> professor of clinical psychiatry
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The human capacity for self-delusion knows no bounds, it seems.
What "peer-reviewed" journals or publications of you read which have made a serious investigation into "demonic possession" to convince you that the author has no idea of what he is talking about?
You sound like "authoritative" government institutions stating that "UFOs don't exist". Forgetting the fact of "how can they be authorities on a phenomenon that doesn't exist"?
I can only link you to my earlier comment which isn't going down too well here.
> I find it rather amusing how people who attend educational institutions teaching the scientific method that were setup by the Church go on to criticize Church views that don't agree with an outlook arising from their education.
>Don't they believe that the same officials of the religious institutions which setup the educational institutions they attend were and still are perspicacious enough to judge whether demonic possession is real or not?
The arguments provided in the article. I quoted them for your convenience.
> What "peer-reviewed"
Why the quotes? I haven't mentioned peer review once.
> You sound like "authoritative" government institutions stating that "UFOs don't exist"
UFOs as in "unidentified flying objects" obviously exist. Nobody denies that. What people deny is aliens visiting Earth and us either not noticing, or covering it up.
> I can only link you to my earlier comment which isn't going down too well here.
Your comment makes no sense. There's attacking the person, there's attacking the person's family, and then there's this. I'd call this "argument from institutional multi-generational hypocrisy". If your country was created by people who believed in slavery - you can't be against slavery. I can't even.
Fascinating POV.
BTW many universities weren't even set up by church. For example the one I graduated (UMCS in Poland).
Oh yes. The one you graduated from was setup by the Church, or founded by people whose educational lineage goes back to the Church. Communism doesn't change the fact that all educational institutions from the Middle Ages were setup by the Church.
They could at least be kind enough to go on to explain why they discount cold reading as a possibility. I'd personally be interested to see a trained mentalist interview these people because it would be much more telling if they arrived at the same conclusions. But I'm also thinking there's a likely reason that such possessed people avoid allowing themselves to be filmed.
To which I reply, "No, you were just being a dick."
Strangely, they don't find that as funny as I do.
Levitation is harder to explain, but also the author does not claim to have witnessed that themselves so the easier explanation is that it’s not an accurate report of whatever occurred.
Having said that, I think it’s important to stay curious about these claims. A close friend and myself experienced a physical phenomenon, and many years later I’m still don’t have any plausible explanation for what it might have been.
EDIT: Apparently this was written before that movie started filming so, I guess not.
It's curious how we humans fail to remember that we're not able to generate all explanations just by thinking about them. Getting to explanations requires experiments. But spirits and demons are so vaguely defined that we just can't test their existence empirically.
Hence, in my mind, this should be in the realm of metaphor, not science. Let spirits and demons live in the humanities, so they can continue to inspire art, books, games, and much thought. They're about the internal human experience, not external reality.
Highly recommend it. It is written by a married couple, one Catholic and one atheist. It takes the supernatural seriously without getting hokey or dismissive.
Don't they believe that the same officials of the religious institutions which setup the educational institutions they attend were and still are perspicacious enough to judge whether demonic possession is real or not?
Again: if your religion has demons, you might want to check and see if it’s a bit evil actually. And if you hear a catholic try to talk out of the other side of their mouth about how modern and progressive their religion is, don’t forget to nail them to the wall about this one. And the communion of saints. Bunch of gross Pauline bullshit. Actually if you hear a new testament verse and it sounds stupid as hell you can bet it's Paul talking. But hey a roman military/corporate man can win a lot of souls, right?