They want to sell you two devices, and a monthly subscription to iCloud to interoperate between them.
It's 2023, and you still can't have multiple user accounts on any model of iPad, "Pro" or otherwise. This is a feature you can just take for-granted on virtually any other "computer" too.
https://support.apple.com/en-hk/guide/deployment-education/e...
The feature has existed for years, Apple just won't let you use it because they'd rather sell separate devices to every family member.
For all the talk about environmentalism and their elaborate phone recycling robots, they're not too concerned about the "reduce" part of "reduce, reuse, recycle." Never mind that it's the most important one that you're supposed to do before the others.
EDIT - I'm aware a local users system without a network login system would require a slightly different implementation from schools, but a small 2.8 trillion dollar company like Apple could figure it out if they wanted to
The iPadOS is so broken in basic ways that I can't even.
AdGuard and Hush for ad blocking, both free.
VLC for video, has built in ftp server which makes loading your pirated videos on super easy.
foobar2000 for music. Hands down the best music player, also has ftp support for easily loading all your favorite pirated music.
Bitwarden for password/totp management.
Joplin for notes (free). GoodNotes for pdf/sketchnotes (not free but worth it imho)
I just don’t think the UX is good enough for their standards. MacOS is poorly suited for touch interactions, and iPadOS is poorly suited for mouse cursor oriented interactions. 2-in-1s are just terrible UX experiences that Apple doesn’t want to be associated with.
Until the m1 is was 100% not possible, now that they are both arm it’s possible but still would require an entirely new device class to do it justice
Microsoft made that possible at least 6 years ago with Surface Book. Why couldn't Apple? (spoiler they could)
https://youtu.be/SdQQ8uvylJ0?si=as1k5R5BhFTZiys_&t=106
And there are other brands too: https://www.ign.com/articles/best-detachable-laptops
Took me 10 seconds to Google. Why do people go to these great lengths to defend giant soulless corporations is beyond me.
Hell, Microsoft has had a tablet offering since 2003 or earlier. It’s hard to do touch and traditional and do justice to both.
ios is arm, macbooks were x86, now is arm. thats why. it is impressive what rosetta 2 does, but it still impacts a significant performance and battery hiut
Now why they didn't make a touch macbook/detachable screen with osx is another question, and likely because there isnt the demand. i was just addressing why you couldn't just smush ios and osx together/run both on the same device
(before anyone jumps in to tell me the simulator is not a full OS: I know. But there was a full toolchain to build for x64, if they’d chosen to Apple could have leveraged it)
sharing the cpu arch makes things easy, case in point at launch m1 ran ios apps.
Again, simulator builds in Xcode are exactly that on x64 devices.
> it would be rosetta2 in reverse
It wouldn’t. Rosetta takes programs compiled for one CPU and runs them on another. But in this scenario apps would be built specifically for x64. Xcode previously had the ability to build multiple architectures in one package (32bit and 64bit), they could totally package ARM and x64 together if they wished to.
Sure, a small number of apps would fall to the wayside. But it’s not like Apple has hesitated to do that before.
What is your perspective based on? I'm not sure it's accurate, especially for productivity/professionals [1]. This matches my personal experience.
[1] https://www.jamf.com/blog/total-cost-of-ownership-mac-versus...
edit: Any comments about the accuracy of this? Or perhaps something to dispute it?
Proof in case, I can plug an android phone into a windows or linux os device and have zero problems yeeting files around and doing stuff off the block with zero input from me for drivers or some fancy app to let me get to the data. I cant do this with an iphone. The most simple act of using a phone as a physical storage device to get something from point a to b....near impossible on apple hardware. Meanwhile its been stock standard functionality for about 15+ years on other devices.
> made all their software offerings over the last 20
What Apple software would people want outside of the Apple ecosystem? Do you have an example? Most of the "niceness" is system wide/cross device integration related, many of which don't have an equivalent in the other OSs to share. For example, try to wirelessly transfer a file, quickly, between any combination of linux and Windows without an active WiFi connection.
The only "substantial" software I can think of, from Apple, is iMovie. My only frequent use is Preview and Keynote. Everything else is either Microsoft (including Office), or third party.
> they walled it off and made mac's about as incompatible and hard to work with for any other device (android,windows,linux) as they possibly could.
Is this also about wired connections? Do you have an example? For me, NFS, VNC, and lots of third party stuff to take care of the rest, the same that I use for PC to PC/linux. I'm not aware of walls for macOS. There's no restrictions for software. I even have third party kernel extensions installed right now.
> plug an android phone into a windows or linux os device
That is obviously intentional, and probably annoying. Although, I can't say I've used wired transfer with a phone in over a decade, including on my Android phone. I have a far less $/Gb USB3 drive to go from computer to computer.
I might be breaking HN guidelines with this comment.
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https://apps.apple.com/us/developer/microsoft-corporation/id...
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bah gawd that’s IrDA’s music!
How about starting with iMessage?
Keynote etc. for Linux would be rather nice.
At one point, I joined a local MUG (Mac Users Group), hoping we could find common cause and support each other in a Windows world. Sadly, that was naive of me.
It's been a long time since I stopped trying to like Android devices, but quite a few years ago I remember Android phones no longer working as a mass storage device you could drag files onto. That was a widely discussed intentional decision by Google and was one of several things that made me decide that Android's talk about freedom, openness and all that was just marketing. You can plug an Android in and drop stuff on it like a thumb drive again now?
I don't think that ever changed, though the vendor can probably turn it off, since they have the source.
On Linux, it can (depends on what you told the phone to present) photos or storage or such. It appears in Nautilus like any other external drive. I usually use it it move the photos off my phone onto my computer.
A damning indictment of the personal computing industry is that Apple nonetheless deliver the best of anyone this front, by a mile, for most users. The whole product category of personal computing devices and operating systems is a real shit-show.
"They've developed utter shite over two decades but only did so because of their impossibly high standards and they care about you, the customer."
Are you referring to extra cloud storage?
edit: A response would be appreciated, so I can understand what's going on with this comment. This is a genuine question. What subscription am I missing out on here?
The cloud subscription just gets you more than the 5Gb of free storage. I use Microsoft OneDrive for extra cloud storage. Handoff, shared clipboard, airdrop, sidecar, and all the other nice stuff works without extra cloud storage. You do need to have an iCloud account.