I wonder how long until Hashicorp starts to use OpenTF as the upstream for TFE
I'm not sure. They voluntarily exchanged the throne of a benevolent ruler for an audience seat where they're one of many. I would personally think that this privileged position was worth more than the cost of the FTEs devoted to the project. But obviously I don't see the whole picture.
Having seen Spacelift, Pulumi, etc. over the last few years, I have little trouble envisioning them jumping to help with some alacrity if a Hashicorp that did want improvements did the work to move it to a software foundation themselves. But again: $$money$$.
Did this forum forget why for-profit companies exist recently?
If you fire on the ecosystem, sometimes (not often enough, but sometimes) the ecosystem fires back.
I feel like this post suggests a misunderstanding about how publicly traded, for profit companies work. Because it is literally their job to capture the entire thing and whatever else they can capture. That's why going public is not awesome for FOSS-oriented companies. We've been here before.
Like, the very concept of a corporation is ordained by a society to provide benefit to the society, not (just) to the shareholders--otherwise there's no reason to enable its creation. Did Hashicorp's action better the society that granted its charter, or attempt to (and hopefully fail to) better its P&L?
I feel it is not unreasonable to simultaneously think that making some money in a sustainable fashion is a good thing--and at the same time also think that there is real value in expecting a functional moralism out of what are legally persons. I do realize that that is out of step with current (American) jurisprudence, but I also don't much care about that.
I've not commented on whether it's good or bad. I'm commenting about the apparent surprise at their behavior.
> Did Hashicorp's action better the society that granted its charter, or attempt to (and hopefully fail to) better its P&L?
The latter, as is their job.
I assure you that I am not surprised.
I am angry, though.
Their job is to maximize shareholder value, and if attempting to capture the entire thing reduces shareholder value, which may occur in this case, they're not doing their job well.
Trying to capture the entire thing, in a way that backfires and gets them a smaller piece of the pie. Which is, incidentally, and answer to the question: A business might be obligated to act in its own interest, but this is the kind of thing that can result in worse financial outcomes, not better.
Now one or two other companies can take all that, pay for one or two engineers and look like the good guys.
I don't think it's supposed to indicate that profit seeking is somehow bad or unnatural for companies to pursue, but that Hashicorp got caught up in something foolish and shortsighted because of some excessive eagerness and carelessness.
As a long-term HashiCorp fanboy, and a true fan of the work of Mitchell this would be my dream come true, on a very personal level. It would also be a great day for the entire community.