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I love Pirate Bay for pushing the envelope with everything they do. Personal opinions on piracy aside...the approach these guys take to to solving their problems, are always innovative. They push us to really think outside of the box of what is possible.

Most 'sane' people would be burned out by constantly fighting "the man" for so long. But these guys seem like they are machines.

Love it!

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I love Pirate Bay for pushing the envelope with everything they do.

They have a lot of big lofty ideas but they often are unable to execute on them or they flop right after they get out the gate. Remember the time they were going to buy an island? Or when the bought the IFPI domain? The Suprnova relaunch? BOiNK? SlopsBox? ShareReactor? Baywords? ViO? The Video Bay? Also, and I can't find any info on this, but I'm pretty sure awhile back they claimed they were going to develop a new p2p protocol for anonymous filesharing.

I'm guessing this won't ever get off the ground, so to speak. It seems wildly impractical.

This is HN. We're regularly talking about startups, where most ideas fail.

I consider them resourceful in terms of producing new and interesting ideas and just about good enough in terms of execution. They're at least still around.

(yeah, it sounds impractical to me too)

That's just the point....Edison didn't invent the bulb on the first try. Apple went bankrupt (or close to it). Google hasn't found the next best thing, but they are not afraid to try. That's the point eh?

There is one thing people can't accuse TPB of, it is giving it all they have and being innovative. Look at all the things you listed. I haven't heard of half of them, which just proves my point even more.

Also, how is it that they are even still around? Didn't the supreme court of Sweden lock them down some time ago? I am CONSTANTLY surprised how these manage to keep going despite the opposition and keep coming up with new things.

It inspires me actually.

they were going to develop a new p2p protocol for anonymous filesharing

I don't remember they planned to roll their own. I do know that they advocate Tribler, maybe that's what you heard about. It makes tracker sites such as TPB redundant as the whole database is stored in decentralized form.

This is exactly the kind of endless stream of intellectually stimulating but mostly infeasible ideas that manifest in the mind of an intelligent person who consumes a certain amount of cannabinoids.

( I'm not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. )

Hey, crappy infeasible ideas are not exclusive to people who consume cannabinoids :) , I have those too.

Now, if only my useless brain would come up with a non-infeasible and decent idea to turn into a startup... :)

Edit: non-flamebait, do the people behind TPB consume cannabinoids? I haven't read their bios.

Edit2: obligatory XKCD http://xkcd.com/553/

I wonder if pirates are the new innovators that porn were/are on the web.

I'm willing to bet porn and piracy go hand in hand.

That seems like such a myopic statement. Does that mean that all who pirate, likely consume a lot of porn? Or all who facilitate piracy - i.e. TPB, etc. - also serve porn?

I know of many private piracy sites/groups that explicitly forbid dealing with porn, but the quality of their releases is unparalleled.

Both groups are on the margins of polite society and have experiences censorship and oppression. Both groups would benefit greatly from a secure anonymous way to share data privately.

There's quite a few p2p trolling legal cases started by porn companies.

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