well still better than both ruining the planet and health with animal based processed food.
I'm skeptical, because many things, like Corn Ethanol, are actually not what they're promised to be. I would love it if this wasn't the case here, but I suspect it is.
Any proof either way?
Updated- the guy above provided a bunch, thanks!
Thanks? And you think you'll get away with that? ;)
> a farm raised (not factory raised) real chunk of meat
Farm raised is in fact worse for the climate than CAFOs (because it takes longer), not talking about other aspects.
> I'd wager $20
Just joking, of course. Try some good vegan restaurant instead (happycow.net).
I've also been paying attention, and know that many things that are sold to us as greener, arent.
If you've been raised vegetarian, it's possible you have some blind spots. A lot of people have an idealized picture of how the industry works.
Have you seen "dairy is scary" ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI
Or dominion? https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch
> know that many things that are sold to us as greener, arent
Certainly, that's why I would recommend focusing on science rather than mass or social media.
It's like with corn based ethanol fuels. Yes, we can turn corn into fuel. Yes, it takes more fuel to burn than we get out of the process.
A new University of Oxford study adds to the growing body of evidence that plant-based foods, even the processed ones, are better for the planet than meat, especially beef and lamb.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2120584119
Estimating the environmental impacts of 57,000 food products
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/07/plant-ba...
Plant-based meat by far the best climate investment, report finds
https://css.umich.edu/publications/research-publications/bey...
Beyond Meat's Beyond Burger Life Cycle Assessment: A detailed comparison between a plant-based and an animal-based protein source
the Beyond Burger generates 90% less greenhouse gas emissions, requires 46% less energy, has >99% less impact on water scarcity and 93% less impact on land use than a ¼ pound of U.S. beef
https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local
You want to reduce the carbon footprint of your food? Focus on what you eat, not whether your food is local ... Transport is a small contributor to emissions. For most food products, it accounts for less than 10%, and it’s much smaller for the largest GHG emitters. In beef from beef herds, it’s 0.5%.
What's your source for this claim about ethanol fuels? You can get pure ethanol at any pump in Brazil, it's widely used, and it's even 10% in gasoline. You sure they are losing money on that?
It's the same for the sugar cane based ethanol made in other countries.
The study on corn ethanol looks so-so, however it's only one study and has a lot of disclaimers about possible problems in methodology. They claim the difference could be as low as zero and as high as 24%. They also are quite strong in saying biofuels must be a part of managing carbon. Just that we need something more efficient than corn. And some scientists have already found problems with the study.[1]
As far as the numbers being the same for sugar cane, that's completely wrong. It produces close to double the fuel.
[1] https://growthenergy.org/2022/05/25/doe-scientists-release-c...