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Greybeards are going to greybeard mate. Plus, it's always funny to me because a lot of the old crowd you ask them what kind of system they ran and they(with swagger) admit that they were in charge of the WHOOOOLE IT department for their local government, and it was a big town too, so at least 500 users.

And I 105% assure that that system was the most secure in the entire county... And also unusable. And when that lad retires or someone in their office kills them out of sheer desperation, hopefully they'll be replaced by one of these new fangled engineers who might not know about vi, but they at least care a little bit about their users(Not a lot though, we're still engineers)

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You could have learned enough vim to be usable in the time it took to write that comment.

How to quit Vim and install Sublime Text?

> How to quit Vim

Restart the computer

Silly you... It's Ctrl+Z

You can try Ctrl+C. Vim will of course not exit but display instructions about how to exit.

Agreed. Nano use is somewhat of a red flag to me.

It’s SO inefficient in comparison to Vim, VSCode, or tons of other alternatives.

If it’s the only thing on the box, fine, but in reality usually Vim is the only editor installed.

I initially thought you were speaking of CPU/ram efficiency until you threw in vscode, so I think you mean developer efficiency. Vi/vim is what you're accustomed to. I've worked with nano since it came out, I think 2004-5ish. I have no idea what I used prior to that, probably vi.

But I am MUCH faster and more efficient with nano than I am vi/vim/emacs. My text editor of choice is like my IDE of choice, it shouldn't be a problem at all for anyone to just accept that I'm getting my work done in a different application.

I'm more in the Vim camp myself, but suspect that those who use nano for longer programming sessions do so using a well-crafted nanorc. Nano does support some "modern" features like syntax highlighting, it's turned just off by default. (As far as I know, you won't be getting stuff like LSP and multiple cursors though.)

Can I? I opened https://www.vim.org/docs.php but something bad happened to it and it displays in microscopic font for me.

After an hour wading through the docs I found a mention of evim:

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This manual is about using Vim in the normal way. There is an alternative called "evim" (easy Vim). This is still Vim, but used in a way that resembles a click-and-type editor like Notepad. It always stays in Insert mode, thus it feels very different. It is not explained in the user manual, since it should be mostly self explanatory. See |evim-keys| for details.

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That's what you mean?

I don't know how much you actually care, and I'm the nano OP of this comment chain/thread but there are some vims (and emacs) with plugins and what not built in. Only one I can think of off the top of my head is https://spacevim.org/ but theres a bunch.

If you are interested they might give you a good start.

`vimtutor`

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