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We had an client side pastebin called 0bin.net

Recently, the last CP addict idiot basically killed us. We always remove those posts when we get a report (we can't see them by our-self, that's the point), but we were swamped by other things, and we didn't catch this one in time. It's a free volunteer project after all.

Our host took down our server and our backup server. We didn't have an offline backup because it makes taking down bad content more work.

We are still struggling to go back up.

This is why you can't have nice things.

(and also, don't host your backup server with the same host)

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I also appreciated 0bin.

Internet progress seems to resoundingly be going backwards. Remember when pastebin used to be super active? Hell, remember when google had informative search results?

All is part of the capitalization of the internet. People seek to make money and how they do it is not always morally or ethically sound.

The view of “the global village” with betterment for human society has become another rent seeker “getting my own” hustle culture. It’s the way people are I guess on the whole.

It's not as simple as capitalization, we had a long period of time where people were making fortunes but the tools actually worked.

Theres something deeper thats causing things like Google search refusing to show more than 12 or so results and them being lower quality. Causing YouTubes algorithm to recommend things you've already watched or just recommending a video over and over for weeks until you watch it to get rid of it.

Yeah!

I guess the thing is that the push is on for ever higher extraction and yields for managers/stakeholders/CEOs and to show it to shareholders and investors and the like. And with higher interest rates where money costs its only amplified I reckon.

I promote a video ad campaign for a client and its insane how much it is being shown for a few clicks. Ad revenue is probably going down in relative terms (or more effort for same results)

> Theres something deeper thats causing things like Google search refusing to show more than 12 or so results and them being lower quality.

That something is - wait for it - capitalization.

Google, YouTube and the rest of the Internet are drowning in low-quality, automated, yet monetized dreck. The signal-to-noise ration on the web has never been lower, and it's getting lower still.

Internet, computing, etc.. As time goes on and attestation catches on general purpose computing will die for the most part.

But maybe we'll see a renaissance of sorts? When the only sites that work on Firefox are fediverse and a few hobbyist sites and people need to go out of their way to find computers that they actually control we might undo the eternal September of the web as a whole.

> progress seems to be going backwards.

I blame JavaScript.

And chewdata, member chewdata?

For what it's worth, 0bin is an excellent service.

I hope you figure things out in a way that causes less of a headache for you.

> and also, don't host your backup server with the same host

cheap way to get some resiliancy is to host a hot-spare/replika at another provider/isp and failover at the dns level with an alternative record

I very much enjoy using 0bin, its excellent. Hope you figure things out!

0bin is a wonderful service and I really hope you're able to get back online soon. Never change!

This is a big barrier to starting cool websites. Perhaps a local offline AI instance with its own keys could help?

Sounds like what really killed the service was your inability to deal with reports in a timely manner.

If you can't promptly handle take down requests don't put yourself in a position where you're required to promptly handle take down requests.

Right, so like hosting your server in a jurisdiction where one can ignore take down requests, such as places like Albania?

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