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Show HN: Repo with a list of 80 decent companies hiring remotely in Europe

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I always wondered why US companies are almost universally interested only in Remote/US candidates when there are millions of qualified world-wide applicants ready to work remotely on US hours. There exists companies that act employers of record allowing you to hire remote workers all over the world, and other than the internet connection lag, there should be no impact for a remote employee.

There must be some untapped business opportunity / startup potential here, US companies are limiting themselves to a small pool of applicants for no apparent reason. Is it because of the cultural differences they perceive? Are the existing EOR services lacking in some regard?

Most probably the hassle/liability of messing up taxes.

If you are hiring someone abroad the simplest way still is to hire it out as contract work.

remote.com makes it easy

True but you still need a willing employer on the receiving end.

Whenever I was offered to work through Remote.com or Deel it was forcing me to be employed in their local branch as an employee. Which made the whole thing more complicated (higher taxation than on the direct B2B contract, etc.) and not so lucrative anymore.

That’s the point. You’re employed locally and do work for the remote company.

If you don’t want to work as an employee, then you can enter into a contracting relationship, but employers tend to avoid this because there’s always the risk that the local government determines the contractor is actually an employee and taxes are owed.

That's the service that an employer of record provides: they hire the worker locally and deal with all resulting payroll & tax complications, liability under local labor laws etc. while the US company pays a flat hourly fee to an overseas service provider.

Anecdotally, this is the setup I was offered for a remote job in an EU country different from the one in which I live. They didn't necesarily want a big company, either. They seemed fine with a company-of-one (there's no "freelance" status as far as my country's administration is concerned).

Because Americans like working with other Americans why does there need to be a reason. Its simple and easy, shared culture, same laws for the most part, shared expectations, ease of communication both time and language. Why do we need to justify it!

Because it does not make economic sense. Also because that is comically inward looking and has a whiff of racism about it on the "shared culture" side..

The US economy is not struggling and is not here to serve your interests.

Is it also wrong to prefer buying products made in your country?

>a whiff of racism about it

Be sure to tell the interviewer this during your next interview with a US company. Surely doing so will cause them to hire you immediately.

I'm not sure where you took your sociology class but you ought to know that culture != race. Next time, you might try to respond directly to the person's statements instead of attempting to discredit them through unwarranted accusations of racism.

It absolutely make "economic sense" to pay domestic salaries and keep the wealth in the country.

noooo you need to sell out your countryman to the unwashed masses over zoom calls until even you, the middle management, gets replaced

Is this a troll account?

No its not! Its a God Fearing Rooting Tooting All American Boy account

C'mon this is a bit too on the nose isn't it?

the distinction I think you're trying to make isn't necessarily racism, but a bias toward ignorance-promoting tendencies to remain ignorant which can have the same result: insulation of thoughts, ideas, decisionmaking from outside views

i don't think it's wrong to say that you could probably find some improvement from an outside perspective and that you may be missing something if you aren't, but I don't think it's a simple enough problem that you can reduce aversion towards change to any single motivation without trying to understand their reasoning

Mostly law, taxes, and various regulation. US to US is pretty straightforward, the rest of the world is not.

What makes you believe that this is a US-only phenomenon? I almost never see remote jobs in countries like Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, or Finland that are open to foreign workers in different timezones.

Timezone, culture, taxes, regulation.

Also, I see no problems with companies trying to hire domestically. Keeps the money in the country and people are able to buy products, including the ones provided by the company.

Finally, is this only a US thing? Do companies in Europe or Canada hire abroad more willingly?

as someone from outside of US, I have the same question as you. Part of the reason for this is time zone issues, legal issues, and some additional management overhead.

But luckily, there are many companies that actually prefer to hire employees from anywhere and are fully globally remote. The problem is discovery because most big remote job boards actually prefer Remote/US jobs as there is lot of money in it.

I built a simple app to curate fully globally remote jobs for global talent to find jobs: https://realworkfromanywhere.com/

Hope it is useful.

US Companies often won't even let US employees work in US States where that company does not already have an office, or is not already set up with some sort of accounting (tax) services.

Also, some US Companies don't allow US Citizens to work remotely abroad due to data restrictions or other concern about sensitive data regulations.

Lots of compliance issues come up. If you’re dealing with another company’s data, especially a large company, they may not be comfortable with their risk exposure in a “random” country.

There are many US companies hiring abroad. But if they make the effort to do this, are they going to hire someone from Europe for $100k/y or just go to the cheapest country and get them for $50k/y or less? They'll go to the cheapest countries, in the same time zone. So.. Latin America. You won't see their job ad.

"hiring", checked like 20 companies, and only found one that was actually hiring

True, not every company is hiring actively at the moment. But having basic info (tech stack, etc.) you're able to take a chance anyways.

BTW Feel free to subscribe to the job alerts. Every email is going beyond that companies list. Sending the next batch tomorrow.

Is the "Show HN: I send 100 remote jobs for Europeans every week" claim from last week realistic or does it also include companies currently not hiring?

Technically speaking it's just a bunch of links, always direct links to the specific roles on the companies' job boards.

Few example positions from the last DevOps issue:

Senior Site Reliability Engineer (at Atlassian)

Senior Solutions Consultant (at Cloudera)

Senior Solutions Architect - DV Cleared (at Cloudera)

Senior Solutions Architect (at Cloudera)

Senior Site Reliability Engineer (at commercetools)

Senior Site Reliability Engineer (SRE) (at Cribl)

Senior Engineer (Tech Lead, OSS Committer) (at Eukarya)

Site Reliability Engineer (at Expensify)

etc.

And it's not 100+ jobs in a single message, ofc. Every stack is sent separately. The number of 100+ is what you got when you filter out US-only / on-site positions.

I don't know about the truthfulness of this list though, checked three randomly and none of them were hiring in Europe.

The market is pretty tough nowadays, so it might be some of them stopped hiring in Europe.

Anyways, will re-check them one-by-one tonight. Thanks!

They're not posting actual jobs, you need your email to send you stuff.

This is spam.

The repo contains just a list of the companies with useful details about them.

Ofc, if you want to get the jobs straight into your inbox, you have to subscribe. These job notifications go beyond that list so it's worth it, IMO.

That's useless information by itself. The only reason this is a "repo" is because you're trying to collect developer emails.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

No obligation to subscribe, though. One can always unsubscribe, too.

Easy to say when you’re on the benefiting side of a scam.

And we went from spam to scam. Whoa, that was quick!

Your post is spam, your behavior is scammy. Not difficult to understand.

You can add GitGuardian - https://careers.gitguardian.com/jobs

Good one, thanks. Will add tonight.

What, pray tell, does "decent" mean in this context?

I think it all boils down to having the remote working mode treated as a first-class citizen.

Means they made the list. Oracle is on it, so decent can't be used in the popular sense here.

Fair point, I wanted to avoid big tech. Forgot about that one, TBH

Sorry for being cheeky. Its a good list.

No worries, thanks for your input!

Judging by the list it probably means "not gambling/crypto/laundering" so pretty good filter.

Edit: nope, has got some online casino stuff in there. Ew...

Yep, this is also one of the conditions.

Forgot about that one you've mentioned though. Another one to get rid of.

Have to admit, it's sometimes hard to check. One of the companies I was interviewing with, pretended to make sports software. Later on it was just pure gambling.

“Decent” companies? By what measure?

It's totally subjective

I love this concept but also find it hard to believe the Linux foundation (currently only posting US based roles) will do remuneration in equity..!

Thanks, will double-check

Update: So actually they're mentioning profit sharing in their job ads:

(`We offer exceptional benefits - e.g., Fantastic health care, Unlimited PTO, 100% 401k match, profit-sharing, and exceptional healthcare plans.`).

I'll update the label as I'm treating both profit sharing, and equity sharing as the same things.

This is exactly people are looking forward to.

Enjoy!

Chartmogul.com is a european remote company.

Thanks for your input, need to bring them on the list then.

You can add thoughtbot

Is it a product company?

For now, the list is focused around product-based companies (while having few of the consultancies included, too).

No it’s a consultancy

Thanks, noted down! The list does have a few of the consultancies in there. I'll include thoughtbot as well.

The biggest problem with the agencies I see, is about keeping up with their tech stack.

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