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Meh, not surprising. Google also has a bunch of these racial support groups whose participation in can literally help with promotion and performance reviews for literally every racial group except one.

I don't like them - I've seen them literally help racial based college clubs get projects to work on at Google.

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> for literally every racial group except one.

Those poor Indians can never catch a break.

Don't think they're talking about Indians.

He means white guys. White guys get no sympathy.

Am white. Do receive sympathy. It’s pretty awesome to be honest. I’m happy to help anyone else because I know I won’t have to ask anyone to help me.

Can you point me to a white guy career support group that you've participated in? I've never seen one at any university or company.

It’s called “the company” or “the university”. That’s my point. Instead of looking at what you don’t have, try appreciating what you already do and use it to help others.

I’ll ask you a similar question: when is white history month?

Never. History months are marketing gimmicks though so it's not a thing I would ever seek to support. I do think people should be more aware of history in general and the long chain of complex events that led to the current situation we find ourselves in. But that would require real nuance and our modern society just doesn't have time for that.

You’re already in it. Most of your superiors, government representatives, and peer group are white guys. Statistically speaking, of course.

If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity. That being said, averages are absolutely terrible for informing decisions such as whether or not such a support group should exist. Plenty of white men slip through the cracks and end up in depression, drug abuse, poverty, and all the other ailments. Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support.

If I were to go to China, of course, as a white guy, I would never presume to be able to even achieve any type of leadership or government position there. And it's not just due to communism. I would not be able to achieve that in Japan either. And I struggle to conjure examples of native born U.S. ex-pats who emigrated from U.S. and then came to prominence in another country but I can think of many examples of the reverse.

My guy’s persecution is so complex he’s even being oppressed in countries he’s never been too.

> If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity.

And what about women from your particular ethnic group? Just because things went like they did historically doesn’t mean we cannot acknowledge that some people have an edge over others.

> Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support.

That’s a fair point, if we’re talking about general care and crisis response. The topic has been career advancement and employee support however, and a white male in the USA or Europe already has all the odds in their favour.

A support group for white men to help each other with the burden of being a white man is therefore, frankly, pretty ridiculous.

White people still are the most overrepresented in leadership https://about.google/belonging/diversity-annual-report/2023/ - you can deny reality all you want - there's only one group that is overrepresented. Let me guess the next reply to this will be some form of "White people are better"

Never let data get in the way of a good victim narrative...

60% of US leadership are White+ against 60% of the US population.

32% of US leadership are Asian+ against 6% of the US population.

Your own source fails to back you up - page 16.

The commenter was talking about promotions so I was looking at leadership % vs staff - nice change of topic though. Why is the US population a good source of comparison? Especially when these companies are full of immigrants? You need to look into your own privilege instead of blaming society friend.

> Why is the US population a good source of comparison? Especially when these companies are full of immigrants?

It sounds like this can be seen in two ways:

1) White people are over-represented in leadership roles compared to the company as a whole.

2) Non-white people are over-represented in the company outside of leadership.

Both of these statements are true.

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