Comment by cmh89 | Hacker News Reader

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>The paradox of tolerance is what I'm operating off of too. My conclusion is that you can't hate the hateful without being hateful yourself. What's your conclusion? That you're always automatically on the right side so it's okay to be intolerant?

You don't seem to understand what the paradox of tolerance is. You're also creating a strawman. No one thinks hate is inherently bad. Lots of people deserve to be hated for their actions. What people are opposed to is hate for people's immutable characteristics, backgrounds, or harmless life choices.

>You're speaking out here against a group. Why shouldn't you be deplatformed? Why should we tolerate your intolerance?

I'm not OP but it's because we're humans with brains who can make distinctions between groups that have odious opinion and those who don't.

Your arguments are really basic and if you're really curious you could spend some time reading about this subject instead of making arguments that would sound profound to a college freshman.

I think hate is inherently bad. People who hate will come to experience it as the truth. That's where you're at. You don't address my arguments, you just create more groups of people to hate and to feel better than-- people without brains, people who make basic arguments, college freshmen. You don't have any arguments, just more groups of people to put down. Bigotry is literally how you've come to think. You can see it right here in your post.

I don't care if you hate me, by some old group definition or by something you've just made up, and you need way worse insults for me to hate you back.

>I think hate is inherently bad.

Cool, I don't really believe you, but if that's the case, you're in the extreme (nonexistant) minority

>People who hate will come to experience it as the truth.

Literally every human who has ever lived hates things. I think you probably perceive what you're saying as profound, but it's actually meaningless. I hate Nazis for the Holocaust. I'm not coming "to experience it as the truth". I hate them because it is the truth.

>You don't address my arguments, you just create more groups of people to hate and to feel better than

LOL yes I did. You can reject basic reality, but I did address your "arguments"

> don't care if you hate me, by some old group definition or by something you've just made up, and you need way worse insults for me to hate you back

Bro bro, your victim complex is out of control Did you somehow skip to a later part of your canned argument? What makes you think I hate you? I can guess that you're probably a youngish radicalized white guy, but I don't know enough about you to hate you. Can you stop trying to manufacture drama and focus on doing something productive?

No, the majority of people understand hate is bad. It's an innate understanding, not a taught thing. Everyone understands that the experience of hate is bad because, as you said, everyone goes through it. People go back to it because disgust and anger are addictive. The stories they tell afterwards are the rationalizations of an addict.

It seems like you really intensely agree with me on the experiencing-hate-as-truth thing. So I will just leave that there.

You hate those groups you are assigning me to, or else you wouldn't be using them as an insult. Like you said, you don't know me. Your insults reveal only information about you.

I mean this in the nicest, most sincere way possible. I don't know you, but I've met you a thousand times. As a middle-aged white guy, I was also a young white guy on the internet.

I encourage you to broaden your horizons. Get off the internet and read some long-form books. Your position isn't profound or even interesting. Your basic assumptions are wrong and no matter what flowery language you use to dress it up, it's still a silly juvenile argument.

After I go outside and read "long-form books" (lol), I'm supposed to then understand that hate is the truth? You've fumed impotently like this at a thousand people before? This is the most ridiculous thread.

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