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Holy crap that is a huge CEO salary for a non profit

Is it? I looked at another non-profit (the Sherman Fairchild Foundation, which manages the post-humous funds of the guy who made Fairchild Semiconductor) and the president makes $500k+ https://beta.candid.org/profile/6906786?keyword=Sherman+fair...

I do love IRS Form 990 in this way...

For people that didn't see article:

"In 2020, the CEO took home over $800,000. Combined, Kiva’s top 10 executives made nearly $3.5 million in 2020. In 2021, nearly half of Kiva’s revenue went to staff salaries."

Also interestingly I spoke to someone about running AdWords campaigns for them as a volunteer and got ghosted. Always felt that was a bit rude. Say if they found another preferred or decided to not run the ads. But from this I wonder how much additional staff not in the salary stats is voluntary if they used volunteers for various kinds of internal activities.

Nonprofit just means no shareholders. Direct employees and vendors can still get rich. In Kiva's case, the local partner banks do really well.

FYI you are shadowbanned and have been for quite some time, it seems. All of your comments show up "dead."

Edit: why the downvotes? Are we not supposed to tell an account it's been shadowbanned?

Campaigning is real vOv

> All of your comments show up "dead."

Not for me, they don't.

Do you have showdead on in your HN profile settings? This is what it looks like for me: https://i.imgur.com/ev5jvEt.png

They may not be shadowbanned. Many of those comments are just low quality and likely downvoted.

Every single one seems to be dead: https://i.imgur.com/ev5jvEt.png

I'm not sure why some of those comments would have been flagged normally, they don't seem to break any HN rules at all. Given the fact that they're all dead, I was leaning towards being shadowbanned.

Check further pages - some are up. They're not flagged - that would show up differently then just dead. They're just likely to be downvoted, because they're mostly low quality.

I run across dead comments occasionally that have nothing rule breaking about them. Offend too many of the snowflake brigade and you too can be killed. You're not supposed to be downvoting reflexively to suppress unpopular opinions. I always vouch for those that are worthwhile, substantive comments even if it's a statement I don't agree with.

FYI you are shadowbanned as well, this comment shows up as "dead".

Yeah looks like I was downvoted below -4.

Is there even such thing as shadowban on HN?

That doesn't even register on the grand scheme; https://nonprofitlight.com/

Example; Roger Goodell - National Football League - $30.3 million.

Gotta hand it to the #2, Holly Lang, adoption director of the Minnesota Companion Rabbit society for her $24 million salary though.

That's actually a glitch...her salary was $24,694, and ProPublica ‘s website somehow picked that up as $24,694,000, which that website cited.

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/201...

Thanks for clarifying, I looked at the site from GP and I WTF’ed loud enough to wake my dog.

See you wouldn't have that problem if you had a companion Rabbit, for the low low price of all your money.

It shows $24,693,084 in the filings for 2018.

Definitely inaccurate data

Wow they didn’t even bother to fact check the top 2 data points? ProPublica is a useless joke.

The $24,693,084 figure accurately represents the original IRS filing[1], which is all ProPublica claims to be doing.

[1] https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/201864550_201812_990E...

Sounds like Holly Lang and the Companion Rabbit Network should be talking to lawyers.

(Preferably a lawyer who cuddles companion rabbits only to counterbalance their apex predator shark side, which comes out when extracting every penny of compensation that is due to clients who have been defamed.)

NFL is not the same type of charity though as Kiva. The NFL doesn't actually aim to help people.

Many hospitals and public/private colleges on that list though.

health care in the US are notorious for high fees and poor outcomes in comparison to other western nations. It makes sense that their CEOs are making a killing.

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2...

Also college costs in the US are also incredibly expensive:

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2018/09/why-is...

Which shows what a joke the "non-profit" label is. People are making substantial amounts of personal profit, just not corporate shareholders. Often the label is there just to benefit from tax exemptions.

Well, It’s just a legal definition for the organization. Many for-profit Silicon Valley startups don’t make profits either, but employees still get paid and executives cash out hundreds of millions of dollars.

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