It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times than firefox over the years.
Firefox has been an amazing product since day one.
Meanwhile, Chrome has literally been developed to probe your ass for data they can sell to advertisers.
In that thread there are a few more examples, most of them somewhat recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36077683
Omg, firefox screwed me over by showing me an ad.
I see. I think no further illustration needed.
It's astounding how far people bend over backwards just to not change browsers for the good of the internet as a whole.
"Yeah I could stop hanging out with a serial baby stabber, but the other guy once said my hat was funny, so that's terrible and I will stay with the baby stabber"
Hardly screwing us over, though. They’ve been doing even worse things, for example constantly opting us in for “anonymous statistics” etc.
If it one day comes out they’ve been sharing this data deanonymized with 3rd parties, then you can say you’ve been screwed over.
People tend to just judge Mozilla way more harshly.
It's very unfair: they do good, and we ask even more of them.
Can we seriously not even contemplate the idea that there might be a certain corporate entity out there with a vested interest in ensuring that Firefox usage is kept deliberately low while at the same ensuring they _just_ enough funding to keep going so they can point to it and say "look, we're not a monopoly!"
It doesn't take a lot of mental effort to realize that the userbase left doesn't want telemetry and third party partnerships; Mozilla knew this, they tried to get away with it and lost goodwill.
It's not the thing, it's the attempt to get away with it that irks me. No one except The Paid wanted pocket integration and Mr Robot promotions.
Meanwhile google is pushing an attempt to strangle the open internet to death, in the open, for all eyes to see.
But no, lets keep pretending that mozilla doing a poorly executed ad is comparable to THAT
It's a self-inflicted problem though. Mozilla uses every opportunity to claim they're on your side and want to protect you from the evil guys.
The nagging itself is annoying to begin with (and incomprehensible - at least ads make sense from a business point of view - but why interrupt my workflow to let me know about Colorways?), but it's made even worse with all their self-righteous BS about privacy while the browser actually being pretty poor (and not GDPR compliant due to default-on telemetry) in its default configuration.
What does this mean? My experience using tabs in firefox has not changed in like twenty years!
Look what an unholy mess the new change to audio playing status has caused.
To summarize, in compact mode you will get the audio playing icon on a tab but it will hide the favicon in that case.
In normal mode, and only if you have a small number of tabs, you will find a tiny 'PLAYING' text instead. If you hover over it, you will find the playing icon...which will have hidden the favicon then.
UX geniuses with too much time on their hands.
It's one thing to make a mistake or do user-hostile decisions inline with your business model. But it's another to loudly shout about how "good" you are (and everyone else is bad) and then do the exact same thing.
Same reason why a policeman or some law-enforcement figure gets more outrage for committing a crime than a normal citizen.
What are you all smoking?
Also, ads on websites are one thing. Ads/nags within the browser itself (which I'm already using) are another. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't bother advertising Chrome to users who already use Chrome.
God damn, people act like money grows on trees when it comes to firefox. I don't care if they flub an attempt at advertising, like the Mr Robot nonsense, because mozilla isn't actively pushing "standards" meant to prevent me from some day being anonymous on the internet or blocking advertising
Virtue-signalling and wasting people's times does not contribute to funding either. I'd disagree with but understand actual ads, or promotions for Pocket/VPN/etc... but wasting users' time on virtue-signalling or "Colorways"?
(look at my other comments for actual long-term funding ideas for Firefox)
I constantly see Chrome ads about privacy and security. Your argument also isn't consistent. Your complaint is that Mozilla has "failed" to achieve their stated goals. The quotes because they've definitely made progress towards that, but just not to your expectations. That is fine to have higher expectations, but you're literally discouraging Mozilla from working in that direction, where others aren't making those moves __at all__. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
And can we stop copy pasting that line? You're starting to sound like a bot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE