Hacker News Reader

Comment by warrenm | Hacker News Reader

funny enough... I called out Cloudflare for the pariah it is, and got downvoted and flagged

I have done the same to the same result. We must be the lunatics, as everyone keep defending their decision to put everything, even their personal blog, behind a single company, because "they might get DDOSed".

The absolute state of software engineers and systems administrators in here, man. Talk about overengineering and premature optimisation, let alone being totally oblivious that their laziness is what creates a monopoly.

People immediately assume if you dislike CF you’re defending one site in particular and once they do that no further discussion is possible.

I'm out of the loop I guess. Which site would that be?

Probably Kiwi Farms or whatever it has evolved into these days.

Funnily enough, KF has its own buttflare-style bot protection script that doesn't really like firefox. Or whatever provider they are using now does.

and someone's come and done it again

I seriously never get people that love CF (or any company for that matter). Praising 1.1.1.1, giving it free advertising. CF is basically handing over your website in return for some less work on your part. I get the advantages of it (like less engineer credits wasted, less server maintaining work and probably cost, faster) but actively giving it free PR just doesnt fit right with me. Pay your bucks and sit. They are a Big Tech company, they dont need your prayers.

>CF is basically handing over your website in return for some less work on your part.

The older you get, the more valuable being able to just dump your shit on other people becomes.

No i totally get it, i can see myself doing the same compromise. I cant see myself recommending such practice, however.

Quite the opposite for me. The older I get (42 now) the less patience I have for people who sacrifice freedom for convenience. You're ruining it for my children when you do this.

I’m a similar age. My view of tech was shaped by sites like slashdot and the thought processes which went into that culture, but put control of my equipment as the important part. It was an eye opener when I entered the workforce and found tech people who genuinely loved the Microsoft eco culture, which makes sense given how much stuff was built for IE only.

I wonder how world views were shaped with those entering the industry post GFC and with google and aws on the ascendency.

I don't praise 1.1.1.1 because it's just a DNS server. My firewall's set to redirect all DNS queries there. It works fine. Could've used 8.8.8.8 instead, but I trust CloudFlare slightly more.

There’s aeverql other providers none of whom are as large as cloudflare - including quad-9 and opendns, and of course your own ISP

Yeah, I could've used any one of them, before 1.1.1.1 I usually used Google.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com