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> An ambulance in the UK is never more than 8 minutes away from you

https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resource/ambulance-response... says 8 minutes is the average response time for the "Category 1: Life-threatening" category, with the 90 percentile at 15 minutes. Less serious categories have longer times.

An ambulance in the UK can be miles away from you too, along narrow country roads. In both the UK and US, the places the most distant from ambulance service also tend to have very low populations and fewer call for ambulance services.

Here are statistics for the US specifically "for Patients With Suspected Stroke" published 2022: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/STROKEAHA.121.037509 . The numbers are in the supplementary data at https://www.ahajournals.org/action/downloadSupplement?doi=10... .

Median response time is 7 minutes with 90-percentile at 14 minutes.

About the same as the UK.

And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital, but I would have thought the US to have had more remote area's and thus longer wait times for an ambulance in remote areas.

On the point of remote area's the RAF will fly helicopters (typically Seakings) over popular area's like Mount Snowdon in Wales, to ping peoples phones and get a handle who is in the places with no cell tower signal.

Quite surprised to see the US beating the UK on this metric!

And yet you see these secret service vehicles turn up out of nowhere on youtube video's and people still disappear never to be seen again. Most odd.

> And then there is air ambulance for remote area's or serious situations which need taking to a speciality hospital,

Both the UK and US have different requirements for remote areas.

In the supplementary data for the paper about the US, I previously referenced Table II. "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for ground transports". Table III is "Median and 90th percentile prehospital time intervals in minutes for air transports", giving an overall time of "20 (13-28)" minutes for median and "35" minutes for 90th percentile.

While I can't find a recent UK source, I did find https://www.jems.com/equipment-gear/response-times-myths44-m... :

> A national standard (including both urban and rural areas) was established in 2001. The most critical emergency calls, referred to as “Category A” calls, have a response time requirement of eight minutes and zero seconds, with a 75% compliance requirement, and the additional stipulation that 95% of these calls must be reached within 14 minutes in urban areas and 19 minutes in rural areas.

I don't know what the current requirements are, and I don't know what the current times are - my point was only to show that those have different requirements.

In any case, where there are fewer people there's also (outside of tourist areas like Snowdon) proportionally less need for emergency services. I doubt the UK has ever had to send an air ambulance to Rockall, though certainly HM Coastguard have needed to rescue someone from there.

I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant.

> I don't know what you refer to with "secret service vehicles", much less how it's relevant.

I was watching a youtube video that was on teh front page of youtube, and it was some bloke somewhere in the US, a rural location, he was filming a piece on his phone and all of a sudden all these secret service cars turned up which shocked him, because he thought he was on his own in a rural location. I dont know if it was near anything of importance or not.

And it's relevant because ... why?

How does he know they are secret service, and not FBI or other organization?

Camp David, the country retreat for the President of the United States, is in rural Catoctin Mountain Park. Was he there, or some place similar (like near where Cheney was hunting)?

So many questions, and I don't see why answering any or all of them have any bearing on the topic.

> An ambulance in the UK is never more than 8 minutes away from you, an ambulance in the US can be miles from you.

Most US road traffic deaths happen in cities and towns. Time to ambo is a factor, but it's not nearly as significant as you say.

> The default position to keep people alive hell or high water is order of the day!

This is a bizarre claim and it is untrue, and evidence free.

> I have certain metrics, that if they occurred, I'd like to be euthanised on the spot, but the govt via the NHS and ambulance service wants to carry on experimenting with me and millions more, like a preface to the story and film Terminator.

Most countries in the world do not allow euthanasia. I'd recommend you look at Advance Directives which is currently the closest you'll get in England. https://compassionindying.org.uk/how-we-can-help/living-will...

> > The default position to keep people alive hell or high water is order of the day!

> This is a bizarre claim and it is untrue, and evidence free.

Have you been trained in first aid? The law used to be that first aid needed to be given until a doctor declared the person dead.

One of my red cross trainers, told us how he got into trouble with a judge at coroners court, when someone suicided in front of train ending up in parts spread quite a distance. They had to gather what they could, but there was no way first aid could have been administered, but they did their best to collect the parts. Ambulance or doctor turned up declared the person dead.

At the coroners court, the red cross first aider was giving their account to the judge, and made the mistake of referring to the person as dead before the ambulance or doctor had declared them dead. The judge tore him another arsehole!

Now this is going back a few decades, different train designs like european hgv trailers have underbelly side impact bars, but that red cross trainer told us, how we have to be careful how we word things, if we end up in a situation which needs to go to court.

I doubt that red cross trainer is alive today, but it stuck with me all these decades and I owe it to them to make administering first aid less traumatic when those situations arise. They were dam good people!

This is what makes the law an ass, and treats the public as assets.

I've looked into the Lions things, and others like what you describe.

Most people have a mobile phone and whilst its got the emergency number facility where someone can call one or more of the emergency numbers on it, the security services know where everyone is. This was demonstrated when Lee Rigby was killed, but because it was military outside a barracks, ergo a potential premature act that could have been more like 911, every phone in the country was pinged to workout where everyone was. So the security services can work out who the likely victim is even before the ambulance staff have turned up.

So why cant the govt let people state in advance which can be updated at will, in the event of X, do this, and in the event of Y, do that.

If I was involved in an accident, there are some things I would want to refuse and just be euthanised.I have been Red cross trained in rescue situations, like earthquakes, mine shafts etc, but not up to date.

Everyone is going to be different, but with the technology and surveillance that exists today, I dont see why people have to be kept alive just because the law demands it, it removes our autonomy.

That loss of autonomy is how the legal system is ruining my mental health and I dare say others who wont speak out because its their job on the line! So how is that fair if the law is supposed to be there to protect us, when its causing some people mental health issues?

I'm also aware of police procedures to split a party up in the event of an accident which could be life threatening in order to find out if it was murder or not by someone in the group, in a scenario of someone falling down the side of a mountain. I'm also aware of how employees of the state use their kids as well, like the police using their kids to go check stuff out to spy on people!

Had it done to me at school by the police!

> I've asked around the ambulance service to see if they have anything to identify the person and then decide if it would be nicer to be swiftly put out of my misery, sadly nothing exists. The default position to keep people alive hell or high water is order of the day!

Good.

If I were in such an accident, I would want to be kept alive until such time as I could make decisions for myself; I absolutely do not want to be in a place where first responders are expected to decide for me while I'm unconscious.

> like a preface to the story and film Terminator.

???

Edit: read the profile, can't tell if psychosis, Markov chain, or trolling.