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Definitely not cool behavior but isn't material to the business. Tesla will keep selling units (more than Toyota in California as of this comment [1]), and any legal outcome will be a slap on the wrist with a small (relatively) settlement funded out of ~$23B in cash reserves on hand.

[1] https://cleanenergyrevolution.co/2023/07/26/teslas-californi...

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It’s a bs story though. The range numbers are estimates based on good conditions at 55mph, and people expect the range to not change when they have lead foot or other factors. Not a bug, not a scandal, just EV noobs who assume the worst when they don’t understand things.

Tesla is currently being subsidized by the feds and doesn't California have additional rebates on EVs?

If one could get $7500 on a hybrid or just a regular car, Tesla would not be doing so great.

Any EV manufacturer is subsidized, due to attempts to mitigate climate change and combustion pollutants (smog and whatnot, which is important to geographies like California).

All car manufacturers are subsidized especially gas car manufacturers who do not pay the costs of the relatively larger environmental damage they create.

A Tesla without any rebate / tax credit still has cheaper TCO than a gas car costing $10,000 to $15,000 less, but many people don’t get this yet so they think these rebates are needed to keep Tesla in business. They’re not.

I didn’t know Californians to be this stupid.

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