Yeah, it's a bit of an antiquated attitude at this point.
If you're monogamous, you should be over the moon to be her last partner. The one she chose after doing extensive field research.
I think I'll take ideals that have survived for thousands of years over dodgy conclusions from likely fraudulent and unrepeatable data.
I think the jury is out on the modern world, as many slaves in middle ages lived far better than the capitalist "slave" workers in the America, India, Philippines, today.
These same people will shamelessly use modern birth control, despite not being used for thousands of years. That's why those ideals existed for so long.
Is everything traditional automatically wrong and everything modern automatically right?
>> These same people will shamelessly use modern birth control, despite not being used for thousands of years. That's why those ideals existed for so long.
You got all this from the poster you replied to? It sure seem you are doing a lot of projecting and straw man building.
How did you get this? The point of a fallacy is that the conclusion does not follow, not that "the inverse is correct". Just because something is traditional does not mean it is right, though it can be. Just because something is not traditional does not mean it is wrong, though it can be. Capitalism wasn't traditional, turned out to be a good idea. Not-murdering-people is traditional, and a pretty good one to follow.
> You got all this from the poster you replied to? It sure seem you are doing a lot of projecting and straw man building.
Yes, most people use modern birth control (e.g., condoms). It is a reasonable assumption to make.
Pay attention to the deeper point being made: effective birth control has not been available for all those thousands of years of "tradition". Why do you think premarital sex has been taboo for so long? Because until recently, that was a really good way to create unstable, broken families.
So no, it’s not antiquated and your response requires looking at humanity through a very narrow and biased lens.
Westerners can still appreciate our values while being in the minority. I do.
Human nature is people want to have sex, and will form lasting relationships for mutual benefit.
Unless you like the idea that the warlord gets all the women and you get nothing?
You can have gender equality and feminism without casual sex. Many young people today, both male and female, feel like the current system they're embedded in is frustrating and unfulfilling.
Everyone's personal preferences are equally valid. We should accept that people who express unease or unhappiness with the current dominant cultural norms pressed upon them have legitimate feelings, rather than attack and insult them by suggesting their desires belong in "the 19th century".
I think the insults themselves have lessened the effectiveness of the message that people are attempting to convey, effectively dulling their voice to an entire generation of people who are may have a different opinion.