I'm not saying your sexuality can change, but I thought there was fairly conclusive evidence that microbiome changes do impact people neurologically?
What I am trying to say is the analogy of wiring is wrong. Our brains are not static, like the wiring in the walls of a house. New connections are formed all of the time, old connections are forgotten. Perhaps we should be more inspired by mycelium connections then wires. Research might open up new ways of thinking, for Autistics and Neurotypicals alike. Imagine, thinking like a child.
How do you feel about the analogy of Hardware / software. Like the hardware is the same, but the software is written different. Good talking with you. Would love to know more. Any types are welcome!
Seems like a huge claim you can’t backup due it being a negative.
Who?
> Biochemical evidence for this hypothesis was identified in 2017, finding mothers with a gay son, particularly those with older brothers, had heightened levels of antibodies to the NLGN4Y Y-protein than mothers with heterosexual sons.[1][2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraternal_birth_order_and_ma...
For example, you might have a particular way of thinking that is different from other people which is both important to you and often associated with ASD. That doesn’t feel like something likely to change qualitatively from say a diet change.
On the other hand, there might be aspects like being overwhelmed by particular kinds of stimuli, that feel less personal and may feel more likely to be impacted be something like a diet change.
Finally, consider that you might be holding too tightly to some aspects of who you are “right now”, to be able to see and accept how some of these things might change. I know I do sp sometimes (regardless of whether I might be on the spectrum, or not). At the very least a relatively fixed (as opposed to growth) mindset is also often associated with ASD.
Anyone who says that autism can be cured, would therefore have to change my being fundamentally, which I personally would oppose, as it is this exact difference, that allowed me to get to points intelectualy where others were not before.
If anyone wants to eradicate autism, sure, go for it, just dont expext any dirac, newton, einstein, and many others to ever get Born again.
Yes, this topic releases a lot of emotions Im aware of that. Whats important to me is that being autistic means being different - not worse. "a relatively fixed mindset" sounds soo pathological.
Autistics hold onto their constructs and routines, because their minds are too flexible and boundry less. I could frame that NT "rigidness" as a pathology just as well.
Thanks for being that open and non black/white thinking to let that sink in and accept it because it comes from an autistic person who does know better about them than someone who is not.
And Im aware of not targeting the main subject of gut bacteria here, and apologize for that. Im sure with your mental fitness youll be able to separate the two aspects and still value the insights shared, thanks!
And if you can accept these different facets being more fluid, I’d propose that rather than curing autism (something I don’t believe in and would never champion), one might be able to moderate specific facets of ASD that people on the spectrum themselves find a hindrance by changing the microbiome. Say some kinds of stimuli-caused overwhelm. Similar to somebody changing their diet to limit hangriness or blood sugar drops.
Note that at no point am I suggesting somebody with ASD needs treatment, just that they might see some improvements in their well-being if they wanted.
Finally, I derailed my comment by mixing it with a well-intended comment about mindset. I mean no judgement w.r.t. a fixed mindset, just that I found it a hindrance myself and have been happier since I started working on changing it.
For example being able to write down some things I may have held as axiomatic in the past (e.g. ideals or standards of behavior) and being able to consider how they may not be so fixed and deciding to change them or ignore them entirely is very liberating.
Among other things it lets me view my identity as separate from my feelings and behaviors.
P.S. I don’t appreciate the ad hominem at the end of your comment. Even if I unintentionally offended you don’t think I deserve that.
Do you know what decreases insulin resistance and changes gut microbiome composition? intermitent fasting.
A review published in Frontiers in Microbiology in 2020 suggested that women with PCOS tend to have less diverse gut bacteria, and the balance of different types of bacteria might also be altered. The causal relationship is obviously not clear.
1. https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282%2804%2902227-7/...
Not relevant to the to be proven point that change to biome implies change in sexuality, none at all.
Maybe they play a role in insulin resistance which causes higher androgen production in women with PCOS, that impacts brain development.
That's not an alt-right theory.
(No doubt, the alt-right has a very horrible “...and, therefore” for it, but that's a different issue.)
Figuring out if a person has a particular problem is the first thing you need to do before you can correct that problem... and there appears to be no accurate way of doing that for autism.
And I did not lie. There are people who claim that. That they die weeks later is another part of the story.
Point Im wanting to make: claims dont prove anything.
Let's see what Tao Lin has to say for himself about being "cured":
>Through nutrition, detoxification, exercise, writing (and other autism-friendly forms of self-expression), reading (allowing me to alleviate loneliness in private, without distress), cannabis, change-catalyzing psychedelics, meditation, and practice, I’ve become much less autistic since high school and college. I estimate I now range from 30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers, depending on the hour, day, week, and month; every symptom varies, I’ve learned, depending on sleep, situation, inflammation levels, cultural consumption, mindset, and hundreds of other factors.
see: https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/xl952r/tao_lin...
Note he didn't say he was cured at all, he said he's "30 to 98 percent more autistic than my peers," and also said that a lot of his treatment wasn't dietary.
You might want to reflect on this a while. You introduced the idea of "lying" which isn't a generous way to interact with anyone. I'd suggest you consider giving others more of the benefit of the doubt. You're very wrong on multiple levels here, but I would never accuse you of lying, I believe you were just mistaken.
I'd also suggest you spend a while doing more investigation into the claim that there's a "cure" for autism. No experts believe this, and the reason is because not only is there no reason to believe such an thing exists (and no evidence), but the idea of a "cure" probably fundamentally misunderstands what autism is to the best of our current knowledge.
Imagine the horrors of not being taken seriously, people saying we need to be cured - i cannot not compare it to conversion therapies for lgbtq+. There are actually institutions promoting this, called ABA therapies.
We need people like you to thrive as part of this society, thanks a lot! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWRniMqhr00 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
To me it seems uncalled for to accuse go_elmo of lying about knowing some of these people.
It was more than eggs an honey. Also looking into him a bit, he still seems very autistic despite being "cured."
It does however not change the "neurodivergent" thinking and processing. There still is a clear distinction from non-adhd ers - in all aspects of being, including communication.
Many issues that make these things a "malfunction" are due to todays system of work and society. Not judging anything, but simply pointing out the huge diff between that and e.g. hunter-gatherer societies where we lived in at least 100x longer - the genotypes of adhd & asd established themselves over that periods in humans, compared to "disease" like trisomy 21 the rates are much higher too - its not a disease but a neurotype and most research agrees today.
Humanity Profits from diversity in all forms, like all biological systems - it makes them more resilient (thats also used in ML btw).
Trying to cure such things by making them dissapear is sick by design and often results in eugenics theories.
I use this opportunity to say that "help" organizations like autism speaks that promote finding "cures" do a lot of harm - similar to conversion therapies for lgbtq people.
Autistics should self advocate as much as possible, thats also the safest organisations to support.
I must say that thats solely my opinion - many autistics also suffer a lot and would love to be healed - even if it means losing their personality, sufferings are real. I just dont think its realistic to implement such things until we understand tvmhe brain fully and could also e.g. change psychopaths, color blind people etc (not easy "fixes")
Thanks a lot for asking and reading this!