On the (nearly lethal) comforts of a luxury cruise (1996) [pdf]
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Just don't take it as anything remotely like an objective review.
If instead he'd written a piece about how the staff on cruise ships work ridiculously hard for very low pay to give the guests a respite from their own shitty lives because the crew live even shittier lives than the guests, that would have been a much better piece. But that's not the piece he chose to write here. Alas.
Also, if you're a fan of cruising, why do you continue to do it knowing the completely compromised position of those below decks who are being cruelly taken advantage of and underpaid to deliver you your cruise? It seems like you're pinning your own issues with yourself and the activity onto DFW while continuing to enjoy it
I also try to avoid cruise lines that really abuse their workers.
I would also point out that this kind of "exploitation" seems empirically to be effective at lifting large numbers of people out of poverty. It's far from ideal, but it nonetheless produces better outcomes than anything else that has been tried.
Note that the king serves his people, and we do not typically characterize kings as inferiors. Parentd feed, clothe, and bathe their children in their early years with no risk to their rank. Perhaps here lingers a contempt for the work of the working men, an ingratitude, that inflames the strange spectacle of overcompensation, of overvaluing their work.
But it is simple. Either the arrangement is just, in which case there is no problem, or it is, in which case, what are you doing partaking in it, unless it is licit nonetheless, in which case, why the anxiety? Learn to receive what is given with the right amount of gratitude.
Also, I don't especially care for cruises.
It sounds like you certainly know better that I would, though, so I’m just curious - what are some examples of the inaccuracies?
I do not mean to be confrontational in the slightest, so I hope my question isn’t coming off that way.
The other thing that really struck me was his characterization of the cruise environment as "an enormous primordial stew of death and decay." It isn't, at least not any more than anyplace else on the planet. Sure, boats rust, but so what? This is just another example of the continual struggle of life against the Second Law. This entire planet is "an enormous primordial stew of death and decay." It is, of course, also an enormous nursery of life emerging from that death and decay. That's just the Way It Is. Cruse ships are just part of the human phenotype, no different from any other artifact. Nothing lasts forever. Getting maudlin about it is a choice.
Some other random examples: he renames the ship from Zenith to Nadir as a dark joke, but then he keeps referring to her that way. The micromanagement he describes on page 37 doesn't happen, except insofar as the staff will try to be helpful in allowing you to make the most of your limited time.
Reading back over it I guess the problem is not so much blatant factual inaccuracies as it is continually and unrelentingly putting the worst possible spin on every detail of what is actually a very enjoyable experience -- if you allow it to be, which he emphatically did not. The most charitable interpretation I can come up with is that this was the clinical depression talking.
I also think a fundamental principle of good drama is that it should have a protagonist that you can root for even if they are flawed. (Frasier is a good example.) None of Seinfeld's characters had any redeeming qualities whatsoever.
I think cruises are kind of shitty. Is it possible that one could dislike the experience without suffering from something in DSM?
To me they're the crowning jewel of shameless consumerism. It's like getting one of those 14-in-1 tools from the dollar store. Sure, you got everything in one pocket but they're all pretty crappy versions of the original.
I get the travel angle, but airplanes are a hell of a lot faster. I've never found myself reading sky mall thinking I'd prefer to be roaming through an actual mall.
Anyway, if you’ve ever been on a cruise ship during a norovirus outbreak, stew of death and decay doesn’t seem so far off.
Cruise ships are enough to make mentally healthy people depressed.
Yes, they did have important things to say, and yes, it wasn't their fault that they were so unhappy, but you should never try to be like them.
Come to think of it, I've never read anything about DFW that comes remotely close to what he did on the page? Like it seems like every writer who has more than a few paragraphs on DFW is someone obviously inferior?
Relatedly, a wild thing, Chuck Palahniuk has written very little about him, but this included the fact that HE AND DFW SHARE A BIRTHDAY.
That kinda blew my mind.
It's also been very convincingly established that the "companion" of the state fair essay didn't exist or wasn't there, which fundamentally changes the piece in a very serious way. His relationship to the publication in the famous "consider the lobster" essay was also not at all what he claimed within the essay.
He was a great writer in many ways and these don't change that or reflect on his skill. I think his even publishing as "nonfiction" was more a characteristic of the literary-journalistic culture of his time, rather than an informed choice on his behalf. Tall tales and partially fictionalized accounts of real events are themselves a deep American literary tradition and there's no shame in that heritage.
But it's well established now that he wasn't the most strictly scrupulous writer or person in general. He stalked and harassed Mary Karr for years, and he has absolutely been caught in small lies in his published works. Whether you still trust him on the big stuff is up to you I guess, doesn't speak to his literary legacy much either way imo.
That seems like a crank opinion, at least wrt Franzen's writing and your italics around the word "obviously."
I mean, I've read Infinite Jest (I did mostly skip the footnotes) but I can't get through more than a few pages of every Franzen novel I've tried. Could just be me.
I almost don't mind if he made up, say, going to lobsterfest, because the story is about the concept of lobsterfest (and beating his drum about the vapidity of american culture) more than the actual event.
Also, isn't jonathan franzen the guy who got in trouble for fabricating his big book?
If you like Port Out Starboard Home and have a high net worth, then the fact there's a queue for the helicopter is a minor irritation: you can always order your own, from shore when needed.
I knew an octegenarian who enjoyed cruises very much. Old men are in short supply and old-people-nookie was his dream day in and day out. A different girl by every port. Everyone knew, nobody cared.
The Rhine is good for wine and food lovers but the boats can wind up beached, when the water is low. So it becomes a bus holiday instead.
If you are somewhere in the middle, it's possible you will enjoy a cruise. I know people who do, very much. I also know people (like me) who think "hell is other people" and who don't. I don't like the buffet and I don't like norovirus.
That said, the Viking line run from Stockholm to Helsinki is fantastic. And, they (or somebody comparable) do one which goes from Scotland, through the Orkneys and Shetland Islands, Via Iceland to Norway and that could be fun. I'll just try and avoid the buffet when the mob are chasing lobster claws.
David Foster Wallace was a creative writer. AA Gill was also prone to romancing, but people trust him more. Eric Newby romanced hard, but it was entertainingly terse. Everyone knows Paul Theroux kinda made shit up. The book demands it.
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