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Sex-specific differences in myocardial injury after Covid-19 Vaccination

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I hate to be too paranoid or nutty about these things, but I know several dozen men who've died of sudden heart failure in the last two or three years. And only one woman.

I used to think that women outlived men on average because men did more physical labor that was both more wearing and more dangerous. Now I think there's something else going on.

Women outlive men for biological reasons. Women are less susceptible to many genetic disorders (two sexual chromosomes helps), they are smaller on average, less susceptible to heart disease and high cholesterol (a side effect of estrogen), less immune disorders and generally better outcomes against infectious diseases, and are less likely to suffer from addiction.

Isn't heart failure one of the largest causes of death (by any cause)?

Right? I'd be more concerned if the majority of one's acquaintances died from something that's not heart failure.

Not in otherwise healthy men in their 20s and 30s.

Depends. Are those men athletes? https://www.healthline.com/health/athletes-dying-of-heart-at...

See Daniels CJ, Rajpal S, Greenshields JT, et al. Prevalence of Clinical and Subclinical Myocarditis in Competitive Athletes With Recent SARS-CoV-2 Infection: Results From the Big Ten COVID-19 Cardiac Registry. JAMA Cardiol. 2021;6(9):1078–1087. doi:10.1001/jamacardio.2021.2065 (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/...)

Sure, I would expect men in that age have several other risk-associated causes of death which are higher.

Anyway, I invoke the fallacy of base rates.

> Several dozen men who’ve died of sudden heart failure

Thats a massive amount. I had pericarditis, thankfully recovered. I knew a handful of people who also had the same, or myocarditis, none of which died. A friend of mine had to has his heart “drained” of fluid, which was probably the worst case.

Vaccination was sold as being completely safe and was irrefutably coerced in Australia - stripping jobs from unvaccinated people (even if the job was a remote one). Who in the government is going to take responsibility for that? Probably nobody.

And as a result I’ll never trust these institutions again.

> even if the job was a remote one

amazing

It just seems so incredibly unlikely to know a “handful” of people who had this unless you met them in the ER. And while I guess it’s mathematically possible, you have to know that it’s incredibly rare and essentially nobody else is in your situation.

FWIW I know one total and barely know them it’s like a friend of a friend of a friend deal.

Yeah why does this person know several dozen but I don't know of anyone? Clearly there's a major difference here.

Several dozen? Are you Solid Snake?

Grabs popcorn.

To stir the pot some...

This is the moderna vaccine, would have been good to see controls in terms of no vax and flu vax.

I wonder if it's lower in men because they have a higher trop cut off? This could easily be answered but I'm not gonna read the article.

Odly enough several men in my acquaintances had heart pains after receiving boosters, whereas I do not know of a single woman that had.

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