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It should be noted we still “tax” them, as in the laws in place put income tax down, but they grow wealth by paying people full time to legally skirt taxation via schemes like this. However considering the current state of bloat governments are in, I’m not sure that extra money would actually mean anything. Except more to funnel into the military industrial complex and other black book projects.

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> I’m not sure that extra money would actually mean anything

In an ideal democracy it would.

Its yet again misrepresented interests. And as an extend to my side note: The decades long shift of interest representation went from the public to the private sphere. The distrust in goverment may be justified, but its no counter argument, because the means of democratic participation is the only viable tool we have left.

FUD helps the parasites. Democracies cannot fail, only the people in it do.

> Democracies cannot fail, only the people in it do.

I think this is false if only because the premise of Democracy is so poorly defined. What are we voting on? Why? Who is "we"?

Am I allowed to call a vote to strip you of your property? Am I allowed to call a vote to tell you what to eat? Am I allowed to call a vote to tell what to do or where to go?

Why or why not? We have laws today that do all of these things. What does "failure" mean?

I believe I read some article how in Switzerland, a particularly insufferable woman applied for citizenship and the people voted no.

I have no ax to grind in this story, I just thought it was pertinent given your questions.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/sw...

Is it not bizarre how the word "Democracy" throws the mind into chaos?

I wonder if this is purely organic, because you see clearly delusional claims about it everywhere online nowadays.

I'd be happy if we kept the amount of tax raised to the same £ (here in the UK) - but by actually properly taxing the rich, that could then move more people out of income taxation (they would still pay all the other taxes that we pay in here in the UK).

This would mean the poorest get to increase their take home pay, without increasing wages.

I was reminded recently of a funny segment by a comedian about how everyone on Hollywood virtue signals about socialism and taxes, yet all of them use LLCs to avoid taxes.

The recent strike showed this off with the trend of publishing residual checks, all of them are made out to shell LLCs.

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