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Yes. At the moment, I think Teslas are the best vehicles available for purchase on the market, electric or otherwise: They have great performance, great reliability, long-lasting materials (my oldest Tesla still feels new!), decent service, and amazing charging infrastructure (at least in the US).

In 1-2 years, I'm hopeful other automakers, including MB, BMW, and Audi, will come out with new EVs that are truly competitive on all these fronts vs Tesla.

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Teslas absolute don't have long-lasting materials or great reliability or great performance. There have been hundreds of thousands of articles and experience about poor materials, build quality, reliability etc. I have owned both a Model S and Model 3, and I did own them because I wanted to support an EV maker, but they are by far some of the worst made cars I have owned. I switched back to a BMW EV and its like night and day.

Not my experience. Let me add that at first, I thought the materials and build of my first Tesla felt "cheap" and "plasticky." Over time, however, I've been pleasantly surprised at how well they've held up.

My oldest Tesla is now three years old, and it still looks and feels new. I could never say that about the BMWs, MBs, and Porsches I've owned over the years.

Tesla is one of the least reliable brands you can buy: https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehi...

Only Ford/Lincoln, Audi, and Land Rover are worse—all notoriously unreliable brands.

Consumer Reports and others have found that most of the "issues" reported with EVs in these rankings are software glitches, often solvable with a reboot or an over-the-air software update: https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/are-electric-cars-...

Those findings are consistent with my experience.

“The organization also found that Tesla, which is often lauded for its sophisticated technology, was not a paragon of reliability, ranking dead-last among brands”

That's just a re-stating of the same ridiculous source data that declares any issue, no matter how trivial, to be of equal weight. It's also effectively punishing the carmakers who acknowledge and fix problems.

New survey by Bloomberg (published today!) finds Tesla's five-year reliability to be exceptional: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-tesla-survey/model-3... (https://archive.li/rkT9X)

Consistent with my experience.

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