It was a good choice for whoever is picking the software and Microsoft is not worried at all in trying to improve it because they know people will swallow it.
Unless I have no option I'm not working anymore for any company that uses Teams.
It was a good choice for whoever is picking the software and Microsoft is not worried at all in trying to improve it because they know people will swallow it.
Unless I have no option I'm not working anymore for any company that uses Teams.
Also, if you're willing, I'd be interested to hear which competing products you use and which areas those products outperform MS Teams?
Sounds like Stockholm syndrome. I was a moderately happy Teams user for conferencing before switching jobs to one that uses Zoom for conferencing, but occasionally has to use Teams.. it's not even close.
Teams was, and still is, a crapshot if it will mangle my audio settings or not (browser, Ubuntu, macOS, doesn't matter). Camera touch-up is pathetic compared to what Zoom does (I have conflicting natural light). Oh, and logging in is often a pain with a million redirects left and right, a timeout from times to times, etc. Also, sometimes I just can't connect to a meeting, it will keep spinning forever, and I have to use the browser version which has the fun benefit of not having all features (sometimes the chat just isn't there on the browser while it is on the "native" "app").
My company is almost exclusively made up of Windows users and overall, I don't hear many complaints about MS Teams.
Hard to watch videos in a Teams team. Why are they files?
Two slightly different styles between teams and chats. I also heard they use two separate DBMSes between chats and teams.
Pasting formatted code is an exercise in patience. Steps:
Click More Formatting
Click language dropdown
Click language
Paste code
Click Insert
Click send message (it doesn't focus)
Discord lets you type three backticks, the language, and three backticks again. No mouse clicks required.Images randomly fail to load.
Teams compresses PNGs to JPGs when it sends it to clients, so screenshots of code look like shit. Downloading it gives you the original file.
You can only pin up to 15 chats. What product manager at Microsoft decided this completely arbitrary number that obviously is not a technical limitation at the time?
Viewing a thread just sucks. Messages don't autoscroll when there's a new message. Good luck following a busy thread.
Pasting in stuff from a site pastes formatted. Need to do ctrl-shift-v to paste unformatted.
I have yet figured out the behavior of how inline code is supposed to work. Inconsistently it decides to close the block with a closing backtick. Sometimes it ignores it.
Their webhook endpoint (for sending in messages to channels) can return a 200 if there is actually a problem delivering the message.
I would rather use Slack, IRC, Discord, or even Matrix to name a few.
My biggest gripe is notifications. There’s no distinction between a direct message and a group chat, including meeting chats. To stop being pinged every time anyone talks to anyone else, you have to disable chat notifications completely.
And yes… team channels exist, but very few people actually use them, because ad-hoc group chats are just so much easier. It’s the same with Slack, except that Slack has a reasonable mechanism for handling notifications.
I especially like it when I switch chats and start typing too early and it either drops the first few words I enter, or they get put in reverse order.
On the actual subject I think "The EU" (really just one agency steered by a bunch of unelected beaurocrats) is way to strict regarding Microsoft and way to lenient towards for example Google. I wonder why that is. Google too bundles it's "Google meet" with it's "office suite". In fact it bundles a lot of stuff. I pay for google's services for their email (mainly antispam) service. I'm getting lots of services in addition. Then let's take Google's play store. You want application analytics? Well firebase is a Google owned service and it enjoys huge privileges on android over everything else (it can collect and send even after the user closes your app). You can even push code and configuration updates. No third party product would ever be allowed to push "unverified" code to android devices via play. How is that not monopolistic? I could name a lot more. There is not even a peep from "the EU" (I put it in quotes, because I too am an EU citizen and I disagree about a lot many of EU agencies are doing,also no one votes for these people, so they certainly don't represent me).
I made it a personal rules that no company that imposes microsoft products, let alone teams, shall benefit from my services. It’s one of many potential smells of a mediocre environment.
Google has their own stuff.
Facebook I am assuming use their own stuff like workplace.
Apple I don’t see using Microsoft but I could be wrong.
Netflix used / uses? Silver light so I know they have pushed Microsoft stuff l.
I doubt i’d miss working on code assembly lines. Plus my contracts are there to pay bills, the real coding and tech happens outside. This mentality brought me a mortgage free house, plenty of savings for the next few years and a solid network of folks whom all know whatsup. I’m doing fine with an owned personality. Probably because once a client agrees to such my “absurd” requests, such as letting me work in an environment i am familiar with since early youth, i give my absolute best to deliver the hard money i’m paid. I’ll even put up with crap such as would be agile and bootcamp “grads”. Heck i’ll even listen to how you think ai will take over your job tomorrow. Just dont mess with my os and chat app.