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If you do bring your work phone. Log yourself out of everything as well.
More friction, less problems :)
There are to many damn chat apps, someone make a memey ffs.
> A modern emergency response center housed on a reliable digital platform ensures teams are ready for emergency response at a moment’s notice.
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Seems like you just googled some reliability article to make this comment? Lol
You can become burned-out using any tool, and even without using any tool.
Far easier to abuse by bad actors than email.
Patch out the phone-home Segment spyware and selfhost a Mattermost, or a Zulip, or a Discourse (for non-real-time) for your team.
Selfhost a Gitea and a Drone.
It's more simple than you think, and you can backup and restore it onto a new hosted VM in minutes.
For some companies self-hosting might make sense. For others, the overhead isn’t worth it.
Just to clarify, by patching out, all you need is to disable a config setting: https://docs.mattermost.com/manage/telemetry.html. It's not like you have to modify the code or anything more intrusive.
I really hate the: For support with CompanyA make account to use service provided by CompanyB to contact A.
Every time I have to use a Slack/Discord to reach a company I'm spam/alert bombed all over again - triple annoying.
[0]: Fork of Gitea, discussed here previously. Recall that Gitea is itself a fork of Gogs!
Still not 100% sure why I pay for Slack, when even Skype has better IM
Might cancel our sub and go to discord
I reluctantly let the company switch to Slack. But 100% driven by employee demand/satisfaction. If as an IT person I recommend anything other than Slack, it will immediately get shot down if I do a poll of employees. Employees like slack for whatever bizarre reasons, even when comparing it to basically identical chat apps.
It’s almost like making a Mac person switch to Windows (or vice versa). People have a strange emotional connection with Slack making it hard to use anything else.
> People have a strange emotional connection with Slack
Seems to contradict: people don't have a strange emotional connection, they value the integrations, apps and familiarity.
As for running the server, I cannot recall any bigger problem I had, Zulip runs in our org for more than 5 years.
Backups are also pretty easy to setup.
Because aside from the capability to send a message, their respective features and use cases are totally different?
If you committed to changing the services you paid for every time one went down, you’d
A) spend a ton of time migrating your workflows instead of being productive B) eventually run out of options because everything goes down at some point
So we will switch tomorrow?
Not so fast: it is such an upheaval changing chat system company wide - thats how they get the retention!
I will also say, teams may actually be better aligned for business use given two reasons, threads promote conversation focus, and threads also make me not want to post idle thoughts. A lot of slacks devolve into chatter, making a thread for a minor thought doesn't feel right. Upside, less idle chit chat, downside lots of things probably go unsaid and it's a less communal feeling.
We dont really use the Teams part for Chats. Only for incidents or company wide stuff.
- It doesn't allow viewing both the (text) list of people and chat at the same time
- The vast majority of the time, people don't include a dial-in. This, alone, kills it for me
- Every time I want to mute myself, I wind up needing to search for the mute button (I know it's in the same place every time, but the fact that I need to "find" it every time tells me there's something poor about it's placement; I couldn't say what, though)
- It's an extra step opening it in the browser, because it tries (twice) to get you to open the application.
It's a death by 1,000 cuts. Just tons of little things that make it annoying (and the one big "no dialin" thing)
#quakenet
On IRC you had netsplits where half of the people could still talk to each other and the rest were disconnected. I would guess it was equally rare (back when I used irc more, 8 years ago?) as outages of "centralized" services today.
On slack the only indication that anything was wrong for the past 2 hours was that my co-workers weren't responding.
So it's possible that slack has as many faults as IRC or more but we don't know because the interface is so dishonest/corrupt.