DeSantis suggests he could pick RFK Jr. to lead the FDA or CDC
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Here are just a few facts about his platform and what he believes that blew me away.
- Will pardon Assange day 1
- Will pardon Snowden day 1
- End the war in Ukraine by brokering a peace deal ASAP, and prevent the 'forever war' from continuing (there or elsewhere).
- Create an executive order to roll back Citizen United, as soon as possible (the ruling that made it so corporations are ‘people’ and that opened up unlimited donations).
- Create an executive order to roll back the pharmaceutical act from 1997 which destroyed our free press.
- RFK Jr is fully vaccinated excluding COVID, as are all 7 of his children some of which chose to get the COVID vaccine, which he left to each to decide); his stance is simply to test vaccines the same way non-vaccine medicines are tested.
- Clean house at the CIA, FBI, NIH, FDA, and virtually all federal branches that are no longer serving us, but the companies that donate massive sums of money to them.
- Decrim both weed and hallucinogens
- Stop further infringement on our 1st Amendment rights (worth watching, last week's subcommittee meeting 'Weaponizing the Government' censorship hearing in which they tried to censor RFK from speaking at all, and then during his own party members tried to censor him by calling for an Executive Meeting, which would have made the hearing private and televised).
Lastly, he has sued Monsanto multiple times and won.
'History has shown us that the people censoring are never the good guys' - RFK Jr.
I think if he truly wants to make a compelling case, he has to stop associating himself with truly bad ideas, for example, claiming that the CIA killed his dad and uncle (this was in a fox news article about his time on the Rogan show), that HIV doesn't cause AIDS (instead saying that it was caused by vaccine research: "Anybody who reads The River will come away pretty much convinced that HIV also came from a vaccine program, there’s plenty of evidence on that as well.".
It's really hard to parse out what he truly believes. It seems like he acftively skirts the truth and then backtracks when somebody calls him out.
You’ll learn everything he believes from his own words which is something very many people prefer we don’t do.
Show us evidence. You can't make claims like that and not show real evidence. Not "Oswald was a CIA asset", show me documents that prove the CIA, as an org, conspired to kill the sitting president.
https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1...
I’m basing my opinion of him on the way he routinely spouts gibbering nonsense, the media doesn’t need to lift a finger to make him look bad.
You’re either misinformed or willfully lying.
he claimed pandemic restrictions were worse than nazi germany ("you could at least hide in the attic like Anne Frank". She was sent to a concentration camp and died after being discovered.
On HIV and AIDS: he explicitly blames HIV on vaccine research. "Kennedy then claimed that “the medical research on these diseases and vaccine research has actually created some of the worst plagues in our history. Anybody who reads The River will come away pretty much convinced that HIV also came from a vaccine program, there’s plenty of evidence on that as well.”"
These are all quoted directly attributed to him, so it's hard to see how we're misinformed.
And ask yourself this - how is it that that book is still sold if it’s all bullshit?
That was one of the many things bouncing around the back of my head as I smugly dismissed him until I watched the Lex Fridman podcast.
Look, I used to think exactly like everybody on hacker news, until I actually listen to the man. Do I agree with everything he says, no, but pretty close… And if you take the time to actually listen to him, you’ll find that he’s pretty reasonable on every single topic. And he’s willing to change his position if anybody can refute and/or provide actual evidence to do so. No one has.
This is why no one will debate him either by the way, isn’t that a little curious? A.k.a. nobody from the virology community. Because they simply can’t refute him based on actual science and facts.
Seriously go listen to rfk on Lex Fridman, if you don’t, then you will never really know the truth will you? And I personally prefer the Lex Fridman podcast but he’s been on Joe Rogan and numerous other podcasts over the last few weeks and truthfully they’re all excellent.
> And ask yourself this - how is it that that book is still sold if it’s all bullshit?
Give me an hour on Amazon and I could find dozens, if not hundreds, of similarly "qualified" books on:
- UFOs, aliens, and "close encounters"
- Bigfoot, Chupacabra, and other cryptids
- Ghosts, Poltergeists, and other "hauntings"
And, let me be clear: I am not talking about fictional novels which include such things; I am talking about "non-fiction" which purports to prove their existence.
Do you believe all of those books must be true as well? Why or why not?
Why do you think that is? Could it be the fact that every single claim he made against Gates, Fauci and Big Pharma is well-sourced and air-tight.
Remember, it isn’t slander or liable if it is provably true.
The virology community isn't debating him because if you debate the conspiracy nuts, you give them creedence and also it's 100X harder to disprove bad ideas.
We also place aegis missile systems near their border, which allows us to strike at the heart of Russia within 12 minutes.
This is nearly identical to what Russia pulled on us in the Cuban missile crisis, we would not of tolerated that, nor should we and that’s why we nearly invaded Cuba.
We did the same thing to them in the Ukraine, and if you don’t think that provoke them to react, then you simply don’t know history.
Russia's leadership is paranoid and not to be trusted- and their stated claims for why they invaded are ridiculous. Russia put themselves at far greater risk - because now half their force and hardware is destroyed. RFK's analysis of history - or rather his stated claims - are more part of his propaganda than they resemble any sort of truth.
He's really not some sort of genius who is misunderstood and being maligned by the establishment. I mean, maybe he's being maligned in excess of his actual stupidity, but it's hard to tell. I think specifically his claims that the CIA and FBI helped kill his father and uncle, along with the HIV_causes-AIDS denial really establish just how crazy he is.
Each there own, comes down to believing he’s not a lying POS like virtually all other politicians. Listening to him, yeah hard to not hear how driven he is for real change. My 2 cents anyway but I respect your opinion even if I don’t agree with it.
I maintain a wide collection of reading and an open mind, and often when I hear things that sound like bullshit, actively try to assume the person spewing bullshit may have a point and bend over backwards trying to understand their point, including exposing myself to facts or reasoning that I don't agree with.
It sounds to me like your beef is with the establishment, and that RFK possibly represents a way to break down the establishment, but I don't think he is the way to achieve that (nor is that a worthy goal).
It sounds like you are very knowledgeable and are actively interested on the topic of HIV/AIDS.
If someone with your background would take the time to read RFK’s book on Fauci with a critical mind and do your best to identify fraudulent claims or misinterpreted facts about the early days of HIV treatment under Fauci, it would go a long way to help discredit RFK’s book and the man himself.
If your critique uncovers new insights it could be very persuasive in dismissing RFK’s candidacy.
This is not a small ask, I realize that, but if your current perception is correct about RFK Jr. you would be doing America a great service by revealing the fraud.
I ask this as someone who is not an expert on HIV/AIDS or vaccines but who has been pursued by RFK Jr’s message on other important topics and would genuinely like to know if the man is genuine or one whose claims should be dismissed.
I have purchased a copy of his book, “The Real Anthony Fauci - Bill Gates, Big Pharma and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health” but haven’t yet read it. I would gladly mail it to you to support this effort.
There’s literally a 0% chance he gets anywhere.
RFK Jr is a public idiot, but DeSantis is already the popular governor of a state considered to be a crucial battleground. He's running second in the polls behind somebody who may be running for President from prison.
I'd say he has a 50% chance of winning the nomination, and another even chance of winning the Presidency. That's a one-in-four chance -- admittedly with enormous error bars, but definitely not to be dismissed out of hand.
The fact that he wants to put a public idiot in a position of power should rule him out, but we've already put public idiots the most powerful position at least once. The population which voted for it has not changed significantly -- and they would likely have done it again, were it not for a once-in-a-lifetime crisis.
I'm not going to waste brain space on rejecting him. That's a fait accompli. But figuring out what to do with the many others who want him to rule the nation... I'm devoting brain space to it, but spinning my wheels. Pointing out how incredibly stupid it would be seems like the most obvious tactic, but is ineffective.
I’m just curious if anyone else finds the ad hominem attacks without any supporting arguments tiresome.
If you disagree with a person’s positions or proposals, by all means cite specific critiques, but calling them names without justification seems childish and weak - something you would do when you have nothing meaningful to add to the discussion.