Dear Aliens
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If mental illness or being mistaken only affected 1% of people... one percent of 7 billion is a big number.
- https://computer.rip/2023-02-14-something-up-there-pt-I.html
- https://computer.rip/2023-02-17-something-up-there-pt-II.htm...
- https://computer.rip/2023-06-07-something-up-there---nasa-an...
It should be understood that I am advocating for a particular interpretation of events that I think is most likely---and is markedly less spectacular than what you typically see in the media. I also haven't really taken on Grusch yet but will probably do so soon.
I've been hesitant to write on Grusch because I do not personally feel him to be credible, but only time will tell. there are far too many similarities between Grusch, Bob Lazar, and Luis Elizondo, which clearly illustrates the need to be skeptical of people with fantastical claims and supposed intelligence backgrounds. Like Lazar before him, Grusch seems to be positioning his claims in such a way that they are not verifiable. It will likely take a couple of years for journalists to provide any serious review of Grusch's claims, if they ever do. These congressional hearings are far more show than substance and were never likely to produce any new information, or to seriously evaluate Grusch's credibility.
We can hope that something will emerge in coming months that will offer a more definitive appraisal of Grusch but, in the meantime, I think it's by far safest to assume that he is another crank in a well-established line of cranks who have (claimed to) emerge from the shadows of the military to tell us that the government definitely has aliens hidden somewhere. The main difference is that the media is taking Grusch far more seriously than they have taken previous instances, but I think that's an artifact of specific events right now (e.g. the AARO) and not really related to the substance of Grusch or his claims. I don't think the congressional hearings should be interpreted as anything more than a knee-jerk reaction to the media situation, perhaps amplified by current political factors.
Do you watch locusts multiply and consume all before them then zoom in and watch the drama unfold between the individuals in the swarm? Or do you stand back and think "stupid things, they'll be hungry soon enough".
Plus, space is so vast and lightspeed is so slow, I can't imagine plotting a trajectory to avoid stars/planets would be at all difficult for a society so advanced.
edit: another pt to consider, if any of this turns out to be true - this is really insane, because most of us think "aliens" like one species.... but according to the many abductions and encounters in the past hundred years we may very well have been visited by TENS of different species... which may also explain the crashes, like it's not just one species/propulsion tech that is repeating their errors. Many different craft shapes too, point towards different tech, different points of failure.
At out current level of airline safety, how many flights would we need to fly to get to 20 crashes.
We must be close to around 1 crash a year?
So 20 years... In 1 year we have around 20 million flights... 400 million flights to get to 20 crashes.
I'm gonna assume advanced aliens are at least an order of magnitude better. There isn't a billion of these things in the sky..
So yeah, there safety level for such an advanced thing seems a bit shit.
I just don't believe they would crash this often to even have 10-20 crafts.
The whole premise seems absurd.
I'm sure they are, at air travel. I think it would be reasonable to assume that some very complicated physics would be required, many orders of magnitude more complicated than air travel, which was first done with leg power, using some spare bicycle parts and various dead plants.
More to the point, why is it always people in the US that have credible or semi credible (or for that matter ANY) evidence of UAP's, UFO's etc? The earth is a big place, why is it always the US they choose to visit? Is Botswana not good enough? Is Europe not technologically advanced enough? Does South America not send the right message?
The hearing today, especially how much we didn't hear, was fascinating.
"Non-human" rather than "extra-terrestrial", I feel, was said a few times to try and tell us something. Perhaps they don't come from far away. Perhaps they come from outside, or perhaps they are from here.
When did they begin to show up?
What if nuclear blasts had an effect outside what we knew?
So many questions.
Wait, isn’t this the plot of Twin Peaks: The Return?
The news today is reporting that it was David Grusch, already not taken very seriously, who testified on the presence of “non-human” biological material found at crash sites. You know what that claim is compatible with? Putting an ape into an advanced drone in order to test the effect of its flight on life. You know, just like was done in the 1950s for space research.
Since almost all credible English-speaking UFO sightings (i.e. someone actually saw something strange in the sky and isn't delusional or lying) have been US military hardware, it stands to reason that the US has been the site of a lot of sightings reported in English. The only other really obvious places where you might see this kind of stuff is rural Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, or China, and I don't know what kind of things the locals have been primed to believe or say when they see strange lights in the sky.
The US is one of the only countries with the resources to explore such things?
Or maybe because the US is the fourth largest country by land mass, and the only bigger ones are Russia, China, and Canada. China probably would keep it a secret, as would Russia. And we would probably process Canada's. And in fact you do hear about stuff over Russia all the time.
Also don't forget how would we approach another planet if we had the tech to go there. The life forms on that planet may appear to us a monkeys or even ants and we would probably just ignore them.
Because it isn't true. I started paying attention to UFO's after the 2017 new york times article on the subject, and yes, there is a perception that it's a US only phenomenon, but it's a misconception. I do not have a link to point you to, but UFO's are being reported world wide, and there have been some famous cases outside the US (as far as UFO cases get famous) such as the school, Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki Ariel School UFO incident.
Good, ignorance should not be rewarded. Start by googling COMETA report, Rendlesham, Ariel or the flavour of the month - Varginha.
The US has a very advanced military and intelligence apparatus which operates globally.
The US has an enormous area that it operates in domestically (large areas of both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans).
The US also has a relatively open culture and emphasizes free speech.
When you look at all of these factors it seems that by having all of them it makes it a lot more likely for people to detect UAPs and then talk about them. The other thing that might be at play here is that, as an American, I have no idea what a credible news source would be from Botswana and it is unlikely to be in English even if I would consume it in the first place.
Also, the 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast was the first human signal capable of detection from distant space, and might have alerted them to humanity. Travel time of the broadcast plus travel time of UFO’s to Earth (assuming they have lightspeed capability) might have resulted in them arriving right around when nukes were invented (if they’re from, say, Alpha Centauri which is 4 light-years away).
Finally, the US and Europe have free press where things like this are more likely to be publicly reported than in say, the USSR back in the day, or China under the CCP. Which, in conjunction with the above, may explain sightings maps like this one, where sightings are most frequent in the US and secondarily in Europe:
https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003
Also, if you search number of reports by date ranges, and choose an arbitrary cutoff at, say, 1944, look at what you get (I would need to see all this data graphed to see when the real inflection point to cut at is, so I'm just guessing here):
1-1943: 1566 sightings reports
1944-2023: 294,641 sightings reports
Two orders of magnitude more sightings reports in the 80yrs since nukes were invented, vs in the almost two millennia previously. Obviously we also had more robust and technologically advanced media in the latter time frame, so that contributes much to the discrepancy. But still a huge discrepancy.
Yeah. Sure.
From what I saw, in the interviews, the claim is that we are not the only country.
That's selection bias from our media reporting on it. MUFON has tracked sightings from all over the world.
Instead I would like engineers from Raytheon and Northrop Grumman etc. who build these sensors system to tell congress what they are seeing. From a duck flying at mach whatever over the surface of the sea due to parallax to the triangular night vision system iris. Explain to the laymen who think they saw an UFO what they really saw.
I loved the letter, but I just quibble on this sentence from my own perspective. It seems to me that concepts like "natural" and "intervention" are almost meaningless to ask. What is "unnatural" to an alien? What kind of matter/energy system can be explained as an "intervention"?
Humanity is the alpha species on Earth and we slaughter billions of animals a year to feed our appetites, regardless of the animal's relative intelligence or ability to provide companionship to us.
Why do we expect a more intelligent alien species to look upon us any differently to how we look upon a cow/sheep/horse/dog/lobster/octopus and every other species eaten by humanity.
And if they're capable of interstellar transport, they will have absolutely no need for our resources as they'll already have full mastery of energy/matter at their disposal.
No, if alien life finds us, they're primarily going to evaluate us as potential threats. Quite like how we treat common pests. Do we have the potential to threaten their convenience? If so, they may eliminate us. If not, the worst we have to fear is probably getting wrapped up in some interstellar pet market...
You are right that a more advanced species (although not necessarily more intelligent) could be an existential threat.
Assuming they know all about humanity, the way we communicate, all the languages, etc
We're ready now, please come!!
As for actual communication, it's a tough question. My first contact education is based on TV and movies. Hopefully they have a procedure based on actual previous first contact experiences.
[1] Like the one perhaps you're in right now.
Go with passive solar design and stop looking for the holy grail of clean energy. The truth is we are shopping for a new home because we long ago ruined our environment like you are doing to yours.
FTA: A lot of out current problems revolve around fuel and the pollution associated with it.
This is true, but not in the way they mean it - it is affecting the quality of life way upward for most people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teBV0EoJJY8&t=6s
God I miss her, taken so young.
I kind of view this as a bit of a problem: If it is so, presumably they have orders of magnitude more capacity for control and amendment and could have very plausibly been editing every last bit of digital data we've relied upon over the last 70+ years. They could well have been re-writing our entire view of the universe.
We need an order of Analogue Eternally-watching Monks we rely upon to fact-check basic assumptions using entirely non-digital means. Which could get complicated.
I more meant they could be editing transmissions and inputs from all the digitally-based means we have analysing the universe - including Voyager, telescopes, gravity wave detectors... CERN.
It was an idea I pondered trying to turn into a short story, but I'm not a writer, so.. here we are.
https://ia801004.us.archive.org/0/items/truenamesvingevernor...
His later book A Deepness in the Sky also revolves around the same ideas.
An excellent, highly scalable (and scaled) way of not being able to notice things.
Of course, among the aliens are a small faction of tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists who are constantly trying to prove the existence of the aliens and their manipulation of the planet's information systems.
These “Aliens” who have been hanging out in under and around Earth for 10,000 years would like for me to share a short account I have written.
Treachery divides us, friends. The Truth is Man is savage and beastial, when not meddlesome scamps. The consequences and when these catch up to us are the real mystery.
An account of the “greys” (and the secret war among Man.)