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New Body Cam Data Exposes the True Scale of NYPD Violence Against Protesters

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Two thoughts: they should use tools like this by default within the police so the supervisors get by default alarms if their field officers do something brutal. And then you can do reporting up the whole hierarchy, how much stays unreported, which one is correct, tolerated, wrong and actually prosecuted. Could be a good way to held everyone accountable, reduce liability for lack of oversight and generally reduce the physical violence. Probably already on the work at the vendors of the bodycams.

Second, I think it is very challenging to correctly qualify some of the violence as correct or wrong. I believe this will always be a human process and the actually messy part

The assumption that supervisors would engage in disciplinary action against their officers committing such abuses of power is rather naïve considering the history of such things within of the NYPD[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Departmen...

Well, do not disagree with that, but the first thing which need to vanish is the excuse of everyone that they have no idea. And a single incident by a regular court process would be enough to fire the supervisor.

It is a tool in the end. How effective depends how you use it.

Law firm used this tool called Codec, to put videos from different sources on a map: https://situ.nyc/research/projects/codec-collaborative-tool

Maybe, but you don't need to watch any videos to know that the protests were probably of the "fiery but mostly peaceful" kind.

https://archive.is/dkggp

> $9950

Structuring, really?

Wonder how many of them will magically have that money confiscated by the police for one reason or another in the near-ish future?

Now do the inverse analysis. Hold liable anyone in an official position who directly incited virtually an entire election-year of violent riots that mostly targeted and victimized innocents. There's precedent in the making for that type of liability.

I can't believe the level of whataboutism in quick replies to this post. Have you considered maybe if policing authorities had been held to account in the first place, then these protests wouldn't have existed at all? You don't even have to think that far back to see it in action. The Ferguson protests happened in 2014. The executive had a measured response that addressed the issue, not even fixed, just addressed.

When public peaceful protests happened between then and now those groups were told to fuck off by the president and vice president. "Get that son of a bitch off the field". There's your catalyst, not groups of people who were so motivated by bad policing they went out on the streets to protest. The executive in power that was made aware of an issue, and said we not only reject it, but we will antagonize you for bringing it up.

These people were subject to violent policing that they were protesting. The irony is palpable, but we see it get excused as just political hacks egging them on, or it was justified because of adjacent activities.

I'm not sure you took the time to understand the technology that the article is about. Because it's geared at collecting event sequencing from terabytes of evidence. If you were interested in turning that technology on protesters, it is open source. But whatever you're saying about politicians here is a total non sequitur.

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