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No, spies for the Soviets.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Hall

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Koval

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Gold

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Fuchs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Glasser

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Dexter_White

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Gregory_Silvermaster

There were many, many people in the US who betrayed their country to the Soviets because they believed in Communism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_espionage_in_the_Unit...

Afaict none of those spies were caught during the first or second Red Scare

Does the China Initiative count as a Red scare? It was recent. Didn't round up any spies either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative

Even more they believed that the fascists had to be tamed. First the German fascists, but then the root of it all, the US fascists with their Hitler support and their genocidal anti-socialist world-domination program, bringing fascism to the whole world. I wouldn't call that betrayal, you could rather argue that the US fascists betrayed the oldest democracy.

Even Oppenheimer, who was a stance Anti-Stalinist and the liberal under the fascist security clique, had the very same view and motivation. Just from the far right.

https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Event... names many more.

Went through your list. I didn’t get the sense of deep belief in communism nor antiamericanism. There seemed to be other incentives. Is there a good example?

Wikipedia isn't the right source for "the sense of deep belief", it's far too dry and factual for that.

The Rosenbergs were known as believers in Communism.

Not OP, but I would recommend on this subject a podcast I've talked about in a previous comment [1], about the life or Hoover and the red scare in light of declassified knowledge of soviet spies in the US.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36257604

I don't think you studied either Klaus Fuchs or the Rosenbergs in much detail then. Whatever the merits of their actions or the cases against them, they were certainly dedicated Communists who did their best for a cause they believed in fervently.

I should have been clear — those were the 3

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