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No, Merkel didn’t say that. Zakharova did.

She mentioned it in an interview with the ZEIT recently.

Here the article debating the interpretation of what she said. https://web.archive.org/web/20230103062022/https://www.zeit....

> Merkel sagte der ZEIT: "Das Minsker Abkommen 2014 war der Versuch, der Ukraine Zeit zu geben. Sie hat diese Zeit auch genutzt, um stärker zu werden, wie man heute sieht."

Give Ukraine time to build up it's defenses against Russian invasion.... Is that bad?

Russia is the aggressor here. It is quite simple.

All the eastern European countries wanted to join NATO because they are afraid of Russian invasion. Turns out they were right.

Its indeed the information i care about, not the implications for any narratives. Distortions and pollution of the information environment is just shortsighted and counterproductive. If you stop looking at facts in favor of narrative you are making yourself vulnerable for the inevitable self destructive corruption. Which can easily be manufactured, which both China and Russia are aware of.

The war in Ukraine began in 2014 when the western intelligence agencies overthrew the elected president in a color revolution.

After that the oligarchs started arming extremists (Azov et. al.) to put the brakes on the inevitable retaliation by Russia.

Nonsense and lies. It started when Russian invaded, because they failed to turn Ukraine in puppet state like Belarus.

Contrary to what your genocide supporting sources say, Ukrainians are actually able to protest with that being engineered by CIA.

US intelligence agencies overthrew the Ukranian government in 2014. This is hardly controversial or difficult to understand.

It is just a lie.

Some context for our readers:

A full-fledged war with Russia will begin in a couple of years - Alexei Arestovich (Mar 18, 2019)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpHq9xCTyQU

To me it implies that Russian designs on Ukraine were understood quite some time ago, and the "buying time" to make Ukraine "stronger" was the counter to Russia's intention. That supposition about Russia's intentions has since been proven correct.

Russia may feel aggrieved that their goal of re-subsuming the independent former Soviet republics has been somewhat thwarted, but clearly that has been and still is their policy.

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